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Cliff, I believe, said that one of the major issues they had at the beginning was the producers adding sounds to the sound track which were not there in the field for dramatic purpose, editing creatively to misrepresent things that had happened, etc. (It would probably be best for me to let Cliff speak for himself if more should be said ... I'll just open the can and see if he wants to pull the worms out. :)) Someday I'd like to sit down in private with Matt over a beer or two and shoot the sh*t, find out what's what, an off-camera, off-mic perspective. I'm not a Matt fan but there are two sides, at least, to every story. In fairness, I'd like to hear his since often I've heard the others. MIB

Not on board with that theory, thank you. Not on board with telepathic, psychic, alien-created bigfoot. They walk, they crap in the woods, and they're as fallible as any other creature in the woods.

That cannot photograph thing is the real myth. They don't like it but it can be done. Sure they are paranoid. Since Europeans showed up on this continent with firearms we have been trying or succeeding in shooting them since. That would give me as a species PTSD as well as paranoia. Can you blame them?

A guy in New Hampshire wrote two books on forest forensics which helps 'read' the history of woods and fields. His Name is Tom Wessels and I have found the books interesting in determining the 'lay of the land' so to speak. Especially around areas that have had sightings so I know what you mean. This isn't about looking for sign it's more about reading the trees and the land itself and what they say about an areas history of activity such as Pasteur along with the types of rocks in walls and piles and what they say, what kind of cultivation, and whether logging or fire was a thinning factor along with the difference between wind damage and ice/snow events. Good reading really.

You don't believe the reverse to be true? You're just getting this now? When claims are unsupported with evidence, then how can things rise above mere opinion? There are precious few facts presented here, and in many cases, opinions are deliberately trumped up as facts that are demonstrably not factual.

Wow I had no idea. I must research this more or not.

Oh, well that's perfectly reasonable. Why not just lead with that?

What he means is that aliens are making bigfoots (human hybrids?) and dropping them off on Earth. He also means that the government is ready at any moment to announce that aliens are real which in turn means the real story here is aliens with a small side of bigfoots.

Or we can simply admit, as common sense and science requires, that stories aren't evidence and we can stop pretending there is some sort of magical equivalence that can be gained. A story about a coyote howling from the top of the Sears Tower holds the same weight as the story of a squatch clan running a garlic trading business in someone's backyard. They are extraordinary claims that should require extraordinary proof from even the most credulous of people. They aren't evidence in any way, shape or form.

I don't know what podcast Disotell defamed bigfoot in, but if it had anything to do with recollections regarding that idiotic show "The 10 Million Dollar Bigfoot Bounty", then you can't really blame him. On this show we had brave, intrepid bigfoot hunters vomiting because they had to walk up a hill, collecting moss to provide as hair samples, and my personal favourite, the show winner saying he would "tap" a female sasquatch if given the chance. Hard not to laugh at that motley crew. At least Disotell is interested in the subject matter and willing to do tests. That he finds some things laughable, well, I don't think you can really blame him. Bigfootin' has some clowns.

I strongly believe that Matt became frustrated because the show's Director and Co-directors would not allow the field team to go into some of the aggressive Bigfoot areas. Good reason for that belief, and probably a good thing for the crew.

I think they are bears quite often, sometimes people, sometimes they are even ground squirrels or rabbits that make scary noises in the woods for people that go out wanting to be scared. What they aren't is overall-wearing, chain-smoking brakemen on your local freight train. They aren't living anywhere near downtown Chicago. They aren't living in Sassyfoot's side yard without leaving physical sign that could be tested. Fer shur, squatch are true blue sweethearts until they start beheading folks, kidnapping them Missing 411 style, attacking in waves at Ape Canyon, throwing rocks at NAWAC or going straight up Boggy Creek style. The only consistent thing in all the stories told is that they remain inconsistent stories. Statistically, what conclusions can we draw from that data? Forest people or wood apes? Sweethearts or monsters? Which group of observers are right? All, some, none? The truth is that none of the stories matter without evidence to back them up. That's why they didn't rely on stories in the Cascades. They used proven techniques that work on all known species to come up with answers rather than just ask for story submissions.

Yes Sir, I Know the bed was made by a Bigfoot. Anyone with and ounce of common sense, normal eyesight, an inquiring mind, but without an pompous, ego driven belief that he/she knows everything, would have concluded the same thing. Your disagreement with the facts are as immaterial and pointless as a buffalo gnat 's attempt to copulate with a turkey buzzard. Let me clue you in; there was in fact supporting physical evidence that a Bigfoot had not only carefully made the pile of duff shown in the photo, but had also lain on the original duff under it at some time in the past. The foot print sizes and shape, and the indentations left in the ground by the animal's weight is physical evidence that no human or other animals made those tracks. The sizes of the parcels of duff that were lifted from the ground by something with two forearms and hands that were slid along the ground's surface were generally two feet long and nearly that wide in some cases. It was obvious that the length of the forearms plus the hands that lifted the duff parcels were not those of typical humans. The fact that the ground and rotted duff left exposed when the top layers of the duff had been lifted were later carefully covered by duff gathered in hands-full from nearby high-ground, absolutely shows the entire actions were performed by a highly intelligent animal. It may have been impossible for you to make these determinations, but no surprise there.

BobbyO - Just curious .. have you spent time in Colorado Springs? My daughter went to college there and she dragged me around the local trails when I'd visit. (I think she was trying to kill me 6000-8000 feet vs 2000 is a bit of a shock.) What you're saying makes sense. The canyons, and especially micro side canyons, above Manitou Springs and on the slopes above the highway heading towards Woodland Park are deep yet small so they should provide pretty fair shelter from wind. It would put "them" relatively close to wintering areas for game animals. The cold is different there than the Pacific Coast .. maybe drier? I could walk around in a tee shirt at 10 degrees F in C. Springs. At 40 here I switch from light to heavy parka. While many of those slopes and canyons have trails, many ice up and don't see much traffic in winter. I don't know if your idea is truly right or wrong but it is certainly reasonable and logical. MIB