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I didn't read your reply too carefully, norseman, but my post was directed at Rockape. He said he wasn't sure what that picture was of. I said, you can be pretty sure it was a Bigfoot, and I explained why I thought that. I am speaking person-to-person, about what each person's confidence level can be about the authenticity of any given photo, based on both my own knowing, and my experience as an observer of 'the community'. I don't care whether 'science' ever gets 'proof' of anything, but I do feel sorry that people are so fearful and suspicious that they have to wait for approval from Big Brother before they're able to trust what they see with their own eyes. And I'm not saying Rockape is fearful and suspicious; he is far from that, which facilitates conversations that can help people who ARE having trouble trusting their own experiences and their own instincts.

Its a good photo, but its a person in a suit. You can tell because of how the head sits on the shoulders. BF has its head forward and down relative to the shoulders. Look for images of 'Letters from the Big Man' and you will see some very similar images to this one. I'm pretty sure because this photo is associated with that project.

Other thread got closed. Anyway, we go again.

Some consider virtually any photographic or video submission to be true by default.

How did you get that I was saying Bill Munns was Big Brother? Bill Munns is just a decent guy who has a lot of information and who people look up to, putting a lot of pressure on him that nobody should have to bear. Big Brother is a reference to all the people hiding behind science as their justification to say, "Don't believe anything. Wait until ***I*** give you the say-so to believe something." Really? In whose interest IS it that you not believe anything? I'm saying, use your own discernment. If you don't have any, rely on other people then. That's a great idea. Good luck with it.

Thanks for confirming what I'm saying. One expert says, "If it is fake, it does represent a fair amount of both skill and expense on the part of the fabricator." "If"????? Guess he doesn't know, either. Hmmm. How interesting! An expert, and he doesn't know! Doesn't sound like he's offering "proof" of anything, to me. And good for him!!!! He's an honest person, so he can't do that, in all good conscience. Expert #2 says, "The fur is simply too uniform in color, density and direction to be authentic..." I don't know what to say about this person. The picture shows EXACTLY the OPPOSITE of every single thing he's saying. Like I said, if anybody thinks any "proof" has been offered in any but the tiniest, tiniest fraction of cases that some photo or another is a "hoax", they're mistaken. Oh -- in my opinion.

The more we can use the SSR to narrow down criteria, the better we can utilize our time in the field. For example, in WA State, Winter during daylight would the preferred time to be out looking.

I understand what they're trying to do there, but I hate to say I don't understand logistically how they could prevent contamination. Getting the nest(s) from the field to what appears to be someone's garage, then that many people with potential stray hairs on their clothing and person doesn't seem to be unquestionable evidence gathering. At the same time, I'll be the first to say that if you don't look you won't find anything. Thanks for sharing BobbyO!

Due to this thread, and in honor of Rob Lowe. I watched Wayne's World this evening. Those DirectTV commercials are really good. Scrawny arms Rob Lowe, that was great..... He is doing something with his kids and providing some entertainment. And while he might truly believe in these things and he could have had an encounter, the show has to go on. And everyone here knows how all these shows puts out crap to make the show interesting and exciting to the viewers. Of course it will be the same kind. I mean really, anyone here who has really done field research knows you could take a years worth of research and probably not have enough interesting stuff to make up just a one hour episode. It really is that boring sometimes. I truly do field research and video/photo and audio analysis work because I love it. Just not enough interesting stuff going on in the real life Bigfoot research world to make enough episodes to carry one season. it would be canceled after the second show probably due to no ratings. It could have been Cory Feldman.

Gosh, don't forget the old: Although I've plenty to prove bigfoot exists, I chose not to share with modern science because bla, bla, bla. Although I could easily lure the creatures into camera traps, I choose not to do so because bla, bla, bla. You don't have the correct mental aspect of it all, as the creatures know if you've been naughty or nice. Christmas is a trip with them, eh? You can never know the beautiful feelings of knowing bigfoot, because you're just not hip. I know more, but you will never know what I know. Bla, bla, bla. Oh, and the really angry MIB is kinda funny. Hello, MIB. How ya doin'? Are you OK?

Here, MIB. Accept this bowl of garlic as a peace offering.

WSA, on 08 May 2014 - 10:26 AM, said: Why? Perhaps the quality of the report may be lacking, but you'll never know without reading it. Perhaps the report will be vague or inconsistent but you'll never know without reading it. It's not like you can just identify one profession and banish them from the land of credibiility as "liars" just based on their profession. (That's a softball, people. Hit it out of the park.) (my reply) I've thought about this too on occasion and I think you make a fair point. Speaking in a general sense, there seems to be a perception with some that people with more education and more of an "intellectual" profession have more credibility than a plumber or an appliance repairman. It seems to me that a blue collar maintenance worker has eyesight as good as a wildlife biologist and they can see if a creature has long arms or great height or huge bulkiness. It doesn't take more education to see this. Should reports from your blue collar, lesser educated type people be regarded with more suspicion for that reason? Is there any evidence that says we should?