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The clan we interacted with (2002-2004) on and around the Rogers county Oklahoma location numbered 7-9 individuals. I recall the night when reloading a game camera bait station (during a lunar eclipse) when ~7 of them loosed a opera of screams and howls from ~40 yards away that transfixed the two of us for the 2-3 minutes it continued. It wasn't a fearful event rather one of amazement. During this time period, we surmised there were a couple of juveniles that loitered in the general vicinity while the rest of the clan made a circuit around Oologah reservoir apparently following the deer herds. Anytime we observed deer prevalent in our vicinity, activity/action was almost a given. When the whitetail were absent, activity was almost always nonexistent. Subsequent residential development encompassed much of the previously vacant land and (~2006-2009) the intrusion of a so-called BF research organization and (per the landowners in the adjoining properties) multiple incidents of gunfire during night time "expeditions" appeared to have the effect of causing the clan to abandon the general area. Therefore, it is the conclusion belligerent actions by people toward them will cause a move. The NAWAC experience on the Branson property (and, adjoining property) further appears to buttress this finding. Basically, the available resources, undisturbed property and lack of hostile encounters with people seem to be proximate factors in numbers of Sasquatch found in a given area. That's likely why the relative expansiveness of the Kiamichi mountains in SE Oklahoma is so conducive to a population that is both stable and possibly even expanding.

H, Succinct and spot on, lad. IMO, Nature's reaction to the original presentation of Ketchum's work clearly defined their (and probably most of other such entities) kowtow to the altar of PC'ness. Subsequently, did the offensive to deride and discredit her work become necessary as her isolation and vilification was requisite in order to CYA? As Americans, we have a historical record of challenging authority and status quo as after all, the US Constitution and Bill of Rights pretty much lay all that out rather plainly. The disconnect is many take scientific publications as purely scientific in nature and decline to acknowledge/question the political undertones and other gambits that may be lying just underneath the surface. Am am in no way concluding Ketchum is infallible however, the ferocity of her detractors does give reason to consider, did they really have something to fear from the findings she brought to light?

I would never bring a sasquatch in with a bullet hole in it. I don't believe in the Kill Club approach. Nor would I ever share a picture or video or other evidence I had as I would prefer sasquatches remain undiscovered. If I were a betting man, and I'm not, I would bet that we will eventually learn that a sasquatch has it's own unique hair and their DNA is entirely, or almost entirely, human.

I see no correlation between Bigfoot and American Indians. With that said, I definitely see the injustices done to the American Indian, even to this day. In a way? They are still POW's in a war they lost. Hostile tribes are often shoved onto the same reservation or adjoining ones. Most tribes do not reside in ancestoral home lands. And through treaty after treaty their reservations have been whittled down to nothing. A example is the northern Cheyenne and Crow in SE Montana. The Crow acted as scouts for the US cavalry and the Cheyenne fought with the Sioux against the Crow and US. I dont agree with some modern Indian practices like gill netting or shooting 10 deer when you only need 2. But ultimately they were here first, and I do respect that. I also respect their right to their own culture and beliefs. And they were an amazing people to start in the Stone Age and within a couple of hundred years advance to the space age. It has only been a little over 100 years since Ishi walked out of the forest. Amazing!

The economic impact goes far beyond timber. Anything based on resource extraction ... timber, mining, energy production (gas, coal). We assume but don't know for sure the extent of the "turf" (I hate to say habitat) they use. If it's not just forest in remote places, we could be talking about land set asides right up to the city limits impacting private land holdings, agricultural use, etc. It's bigger than just timber, we just don't know how big. Further, if gov't really knows about bigfoot, if they've had them in the lab, etc as some suggest, then they may have confirmed some of the "woo" stuff. Maybe there are weaponization concerns, national security issues in play. Who knows? ... and until we know what is, we don't know what isn't. Until we know more, I think it pays to keep all the questions open and all possibilities on the table, even the ones we personally think unlikely. MIB