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Hiflier, you started off saying you wanted to unbiasedly get to the truth in your in-depth research of this study. Given your recent responses and unwavering defense of everything Ketchum, it makes it hard to believe you are coming at this without bias. JMHO.

I would like to bring up two points. 1) I've mentioned several time the issue of hair morphology that is not Human but tests as Human but no one so far has commented on it. And this second point I think is of the utmost importance and I'm only going to bring it up this one time so read carefully, please: 2) There were Law Enforcement criminologists on the Sasquatch Genome Project's team. IMHO it makes no sense for Dr. Ketchum to have these people on the team if she was running a scam. Like this guy who at the time had 30 years in the biz: "Dr. Patrick Wojkiewicz Pat Wojtkiewicz is the Director of the Shreveport Laboratory of the North Louisiana Crime Lab System and the Technical Leader of the DNA section. He has been employed at the crime lab since 1977. His first position was in the serology department where he worked in body fluid identification, blood typing, and hair and fiber analysis. In 1991, he moved to South Louisiana to pursue a Ph.D. in Molecular and Cellular Biology at Tulane University. While working on his dissertation, he was involved in forensic DNA analysis and training. He returned to the North Louisiana Crime Lab in 1995, as Director of DNA Research and Training. The DNA Analysis Unit has developed into a premier facility in the country, utilizing the latest techniques to analyze DNA evidence. At the North Louisiana Crime Lab, DNA analysts and student interns are involved in applied research to improve and develop methods in DNA analysis. Dr. Wojtkiewicz has presented numerous talks and posters concerning DNA methods and evidence collection, and has co-authored several articles on DNA. He has served on the Governor’s Commission for Post-Conviction Testing by DNA Testing and the Legislative Commission for Sexual Assault Investigation. Dr. Wojtkiewicz has been involved in numerous workshops for training law enforcement officers and forensic DNA analysts. He is also currently an adjunct Assistant Professor of Chemistry at North western State University (Louisiana" Now you can't tell me that thi expert would allow himself to be duped by a veterinarian who was bent on duping him for five years into helping her pull off a 'hoax' as large as this study was. I would say that if he ever caught wind that she scammed financial investors, or tainted the samples in any way, or didn't follow proper DNA procedural protocols that he wouldn't know about it? If he ever suspected her of foul play and used him and his credentials to do it she would have been indicted so fast it would make her head spin. But such investigations and indictments take time so maybe there's one in the works for all we know. But so far there has been no apparent word of any such action. If I were Dr. Wojkiewicz and ever even minutely thought that I was used as a patsy in such a scheme I would not stop until an indictment was handed down. I mean it's not like no one hasn't accused her of amazing dishonesty right? On the flip side if Dr. Ketchum WAS running a scam and I knew about it but said nothing because of my embarrassment at being had then I would be guilty of duplicity and somehow I doubt Dr. Wojkiewicz (among others with impeccable reputations to protect) would choose that route. Some of you may concede that this second point has high merit and some of you may not but regardless the point deserves some extremely deep and serious consideration. So does anyone think that with all of the scientific and Sasquatch proponent backlash over the past few years that A person with 30 years of DNA criminology would simply let Dr. Ketchum go free? Does anyone think that Dr. Wojkiewicz STILL does know that he was duped, along with all of the other members of the team (who each possessed amazing credentials BTW) into helping Dr. Melba Ketchum run a scam? A fraudulent scheme to bilk investors out of a half a million dollars right under the noses of Law Enforcement people?..........Think about it.

No one is talking man/bear/pig here. Certainly not me. Lots of hair samples got tossed BECAUSE they were man, bear, or pig, or deer, or opossum, dog, cat, or any other common animal simply through hair morphology alone. So. What? The team, or none of the other labs, didn't know what they were doing? Didn't know how to use their equipment? Fresh out of DNA school? First day on the job? Check the list of people, the labs, and the universities one more time and then tell me no one knew what they were doing

This issue even still being debated is a black eye on BF research. It's a detriment to the subject if something so you obviously flawed is still getting traction. It weakens the argument as a whole that BF is a living breathing hominid. Before the "results" ( notice I won't say published ) were released I was very optimistic about what they could reveal. Most of this DNA stuff is well above my pay grade but listening to other scientist chime in and say the work is shoddy is enough to tell me there is nothing of worth here. We should put this in the pile with other hoaxers and move on. The quicker it dies the better for true BF research IMO.

I have read that article now for a third time. And I still see nothing damning in it. In fact, Dr. Disotell actually did say this: "I’m not saying the conclusions in the paper are right or wrong," And then went on to say that at the time he wrote the article he had only read the Summary and Conclusion parts of the paper. His complaint seemed more to focus on mainstream protocols regarding publishing than anything else.

The above post's "scenario" requires a lot of mental gymnastics to be considered "logical". A suspected poacher was caught shooting and killing something unknown to him....yet it was all by accident. Riiight.