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That's what we have been finding . Nothing like I've ever seen before .

As I've said before, I have 100% certainty they existed on Oct 6, 2013. I also have high confidence they existed Oct 18th or so, 2015. I have a pretty good notion they existed as late as Summer 2016. I have no reason at all to believe they don't still exist today. To think otherwise, at least for me, would be baseless. I see no reason to think there are any fewer today than there were 20 or 50 or 250 years ago .. at least equal chances there are actually more. I don't understand the weirdly contorted rabbit holes some people insist on exploring. I really don't. MIB

Another perennial topic. My opinion only is, they avoid or disable them when detected, sometimes they malfunction, allowing access, and sometimes there are trail cam captures. There have been some good pics and I'd imagine the best are not public. Cams aren't necessarily deterrents if they want something.

No. The pic i'm talking about is a hand print with a small footprint. I did find a 3 toe print in Tennessee when i lived there it was in standing stone state park around a clear cut while hunting

Read up some on the Western Lowland Gorilla. Full grown male stands erect at just under 6 feet tall. He also has an arm span of 8 feet. This does not imply wide shoulders though. A 6 foot Human male has an arm span of about 6 feet. So a WLL Gorilla's arm span is two feet wider than a Human's but it's arm is also longer than a Human male's by a foot. A little math shows that even though the WLL Gorilla's arm span is wider, because it's arms are longer it still only has a total shoulder span that is about the same as a Human. I think this is important to know because people make Gorilla costumes and have made them since just after Gorillas were discovered to exist. Bob Hieronimus supposedly had one that he wore for the filming of the PGF that he said he modified. But since the width of Patty rules him out as a contender in a suit the story is meaningless. I thought it relevant anyway though to bring up the dimensions of the Western Lowland Gorilla because it means that Humans can't even make a Gorilla suit correctly if it's going to fit a Human. The arms of the suit would have to be a foot shorter and the legs longer. I've looked at a lot of Gorilla suits lately, even the one that Philip Morris is saying is a replica of Patty. None of the costumes are not even close to what Patty looked like. But most of the public doesn't know that so for them it's easy to show a costume to them and then say, "See? Hoaxing Patty was a piece of cake, anyone can do it".