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Unless you're faster than them ! haha ! Pat...

Right. Paulides carefully avoids saying WHAT happened to those people. The disappearances are **real**. Some are from my area and I'm fairly familiar with them. Weird stuff. Some of the s**t is indeed strange. I've run into enough of it to think it is probable that at least some, maybe most, of the strangeness others report is real as well. Starting with the notion of "this can't be real" guarantees you'll be unprepared for it when it happens. Most of the people I know who notice the strange are people who are out alone. It's not a matter of their imagination getting away, it's a matter of reducing distraction. If you're not engaging in conversation and your whole focus is on your surroundings rather than someone you're yammering back and forth with, you're a lot more likely to notice what is out of place around you. Friends may be comfort but they are not safety. MIB

The track may enlarge is snow due to melting but the snow melting doesnt move the tracks farther apart. I think snow tracks are excellent because something made them and unlike sand or something the hoaxer cannot just rake away the hoaxing evidence.

I can't speak for the researchers that recorded those, But do pay attention to how often the word "human" comes up in various explanations and descriptions of the sounds .I hear "voice" that is very reminiscent of the Sierra Sounds in them. Not to mention the whoops. Canines find their way into many of these recordings, potentially because of the same symbiotic relationship we have with them. They can be an alarm system and a hunting partner out there.

Snow distorts tracks. It has been demonstrated tracks in the snow of normal size can appear much larger and accomplished with snow shoes. I have not seen any that you have described. I would certainly like to. Bossburg tracks I believe were orchestrated by Ivan Marx who had the resources to study foot anatomy. For a time the tracks were my second favorite evidence after the awesome film. I am not aware of dermal ridge tracks that heal. I am aware of only that they can be faked. You have brought up some interesting points. I would love to learn more. Thank you for the video. You are my favorite Sasquatch hunter. I am very willing to listen and learn.

What about trackways in snow that defy human scale? In stride, etc? So long is there is no corresponding road, etc where somebody can ride in a pickup bed with a stomper on a stick? Or in deep fresh snow where a hoaxer cannot wear the stompers backwards and run down hill? And why do you dismiss the Bossburg tracks so easily? Foot doctors seem to think they are a legit example of club foot? And what about the cuts on dermal ridges that seem to heal and can identify a single individual? Your my favorite skeptic so I’m pinging your opinion!

Great thread Norse. 1 PGF . Even a skeptic like me is very impressed by the film . I can dismiss tracks including the Bossburg tracks , eyewitnesses,dermal ridges Snow tracks are the worst of all. Easily distorted. Sounds and knocks Undiscovered fossil record . i say undiscovered because i don't rule that out. DNA would be nice . Type specimen is the only acceptable evidence that will suffice. So in conclusion. I agree with hiflier. The Patterson film.

I am not much of a champagne guy ( or sipping guy ), I like the harder stuff.

I of course agreed/agree with DWA on that one Norse. Our word today is “congruency”. As he would say, “This animal has been repeatedly and consistently observed doing all the things animals do, and more often than any other unclassified animal we know of”. That is really not a debatable point. It just is.

Thank you for sharing that. His explanations as to why the likelihood that the creatures do not exist is spot on. I have heard similar explanations from fellow scientists and is exactly why without a body the creature is a mythical beast until proven otherwise.