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You could still be wrong. ISF has a bunch of turds floating in the same punch bowl. I've seen no critical thinking there, just a bunch of people belittling anyone who doesn't think exactly as they do. Sasquatch has the ability to turn some people into blithering idiots.

The question was asked about the estimated populations in the areas I visit. The area in central Oklahoma near Lake Eufaula where I had my close encounter had an entire clan of multiple family groups according to the land owner. I heard activity all around me but I only saw 5 subjects. A 10 foot alpha male, and 8 foot female, 2-6 foot juveniles and a small 3 foot toddler that I seldom mention because of sounding like I was embellishing things. I don't suggest there's a Squatch around every corner, but for whatever reasons, be it a feeling of knowing when and where to look or possibly being marked individual, I have no problems of going out to many wooded locations in Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri and Kentucky and documenting activity regularly. It just happens folks! With that said, my opinion is there are a whole lot more living out there than many people realize. Case in point: Last week I was in central Texas with two other experienced researchers of an established organization I won't name and one newbie. We were moving down a well traveled, marked trail about 8 in the morning before the temps rose with 80-100% humidity. One person suddenly noticed dark quick movements off to our left about 75 yards out (Day watcher). I immediately began videoing that direction and noticed something dark which did not blend completely in with the greens and browns. I zoomed in and captured this subject discreetly watching us as usual using cover and concealment to perfection. The other three never noticed keyed on that specific location and were standing right beside me on a low water bridge. I was not using a tripod and the video wiggles about and the focus kept searching because of various levels and distances of objects in line with the subject. They stopped behind a fallen tree and used hanging leaves in front of them as cover. To give a better perspective of how subtle they can be (No telling how many have overlooked them) I have clipped two pictures from the video I shot that morning. The first is marked showing how far it was off the trail. The second is an enhanced clip showing the subject standing there watching us. He had the big nose LOL! Again I'm offering proof of anything I just enjoy sharing with interested folks.

You're not looking, obviously.

The Garrett article actually makes sense in a counter intuitive way. When an object breaks the sound barrier, air is compressed in front of it. This is why supersonic aircraft (and high velocity bullets) are designed with sleek, pointy noses and profiles to move as smoothly as possible through the air. Looking at a Remington 405 gr. JSP .45-70 cartridge from a box that accompanied the 1894 Government Model Trapdoor Springfield that my late father-in-law gifted me shortly before he passed, it has a flat point about 1/4" across. Even with a round nose, it would not be the best design for supersonic flight. My thought is that the faster a projectile like that goes beyond the sound barrier, the denser that "bow wave" will be. It's possible that as the bullet reaches the target, that region of compressed air hits first and reacts with a counter force that acts as a brake on velocity. This is strictly supposition and to test would likely need a laboratory with Doppler radar such as Hornady used in developing the heat resistant tips for their ELD bullets. Regardless, getting the attention of a heavily muscled, bulky animal, requires a solid bullet that can punch through tough tissue and/or break bones. It needs to be fired from a weapon that you can shoot enough to develop proficiency for good bullet placement and can physically pack comfortably. Those two are limiting factors for me due to rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia. I can empty a 20 round magazine of 150 gr. .308 from my M-1A Socom 16 without a hitch, but two or three of the same rounds from a bolt action are going to be reminding me of their kick for a day or two. Too much of that will have me visiting Virginia Mason for shoulder reconstruction, and I already carry enough aftermarket parts from the waist down, I'd like to keep the remaining OEM parts functional for as long as possible!

Yes I could still be wrong but I doubt it. Conversely Nathan et al could be wrong. The power of imagination knows no limits. Your opinion of ISF is duly noted. But it’s just your opinion and means nothing to me at the end of the day. My suggestion to you is simply don’t post there. You wouldn’t last a week. I agree wholeheartedly that Sasquatch has the ability to turn some people into blithering idiots, but I’m not naming names. That would be against forum rules.

Looking at the movie, Patties movement did not match what is most often described in witness accounts which is proceed towards the nearest cover. That would have been to seek cover on the far bank of the creek, 90 degrees to her direction of travel. That she traveled along the creek, looked back at Bob and Roger, makes me think she was trying to draw them away from something important, or she was headed towards a juvenile in their direction of travel to protect it. She seemed to have a single minded determination to head that direction for some reason.

The biggest advantage I see involves our constantly underestimating them. If they were in fact a "**** dirty ape" the question would have been solved long ago. While I was actively studying them, I was outsmarted at every turn. They learn very quickly. We are crippled by our hubris, e.g. the antics of "Finding Bigfoot"

Before the European invasion of America, this country sustained viable Native American tribes stretching from coast to coast. Some were nomadic moving where the conditions and food supply could sustain them as needed. Others (Like my Cherokee ancestors) remained in one geographic location and added cultivation and storage skills to help supply their needs. To survive, I feel the Bigfoot/Sasquatch are no different. Some groups are mostly static, while others become migratory to a point, or others resort to dumpster diving, trash can raiding or raiding land fills at night. My first close encounter and subsequent visual sighting came within a mile or so of public landfills. My opinion is these subjects are not animals but a tribe of people living a very base lifestyle. A clear advantage when some consider them much less IMO.

I haven't read any habituation stories here from people that are surrounded by strip malls & housing tracts, although it's possible that I may have missed one. Do you think that it's inconceivable that anyone who isn't surrounded by PNW wilderness can possibly be having visits from BF? Thinking back....maybe it included you, or maybe not.....we used to be told that there's no way BF is coming to any houses, because they're afraid of humans. But now that Mom may have had her house slapped by one, the goalpost is moved. "They may, possibly slap a house, but it has to be surrounded by wilderness." And since we're being perfectly honest, if they wanted to slap a house in the middle a housing tract, they would be perfectly capable of doing it. What happens if Mom suddenly hears them talking to her telepathically?