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Oh, I absolutely agree. However, regarding bigfoot, I do not believe there is a widespread conspiracy among gov't employees of various sorts to keep bigfoot under wraps. What incentive could be offered, what threat could be made, to keep every single one of upwards of 100,000 potential whistle-blowers quiet? You'd have to have something that appealed with equal effectiveness to those who think the public has a right to know, preservationists, those who think we need to wipe out the bigfoots, people who are just looking for fame for being the discoverer ... all those possible motives have to be silenced under one umbrella. I don't see it. Norseman .. what could be offered to entice you to remain silent if you had absolute proof? Hiflier .. what about you? Anyone else in the conversation? If you had proof, what could be offered or what could be threatened to silence you? It is inconvenient for the conspiracy theorists, but it has to be considered. How could such a conspiracy exist, what could it offer / threaten, and how could the conspiracy itself remain veiled yet affect so many people so effectively? MIB

My wife and I usually camp in our truck, which is a 1995 Mitsubishi Montero, mentioned in the squatching vehicle thread. We took all the seats out of the back and made a sleeping platform and slide-out cutting boards/cook stove surface. My wife made the curtains for the sleeping area. For backpacking we have a small, waterproof Nemo tent. It's very minimalist, and has a tiny footprint which is useful in the Cascades. In my single days I used a Hennessey Hammock with a Hammock Gear down underquilt. Quite comfortable and pretty effective in our rugged terrain here, but useless for two people.

I can't speak for anyone else. I've had the sighting ... x2, decades apart. So ... I can only hypothesize. Considering the body of evidence, I think yes, I could be convinced by that alone. The problem is, as I see it, dismissing ALL evidence requires such an incredible Rube Goldberg mix of excuses .. or sheer ignorance .. that as a logical person with a science background, the existence of an unknown hominid is by far the simplest answer. In short, Occam's Razor, applied to the evidence, says they're clearly and unequivocally real as the simplest and most logical explanation. The only doubt I have about that conclusion is whether I'd have taken time to truly adequately examine the evidence without those two sightings to keep my curiosity engaged. If I did not, I might come to the same ignorant conclusion as the scoftic cadre. MIB

I went backpacking into the Siskiyou Wilderness (in northern CA) the first week of July. Spent 3 nights in the mid-section of the wilderness; backpacked from end of northern portion of the GO-road (Boundary Trailhead) down to Elk Valley. This trail is north of the Blue Creek drainage. Elk Valley is where we camped and is the beginning of Blue Creek. After exiting, we drove to the northern end of the Siskiyou Wilderness and spent another 3 nights. One night at Sanger Lake and then we backpacked into Youngs Valley. Youngs Valley is where Clear Creek starts and drains south. We saw plenty of deer on the meadows. We did not see or hear any bear or bigfoot. The wild berries were not out yet. We did find what appeared to be 2 footprints on the Boundary Trail on the way back. They looked like old footprints that were imprinted when the terrain was wet and muddy. One print is human size but could be a double print from a bear or just random formation. The other print is small (like from a toddler) and gives the appearance of showing the toes pushing the mud out. They were not very good and I am not claiming they are from BF but I took pictures anyway in order to document. I doubt that children will walk barefoot where we were. The map below shows where the footprints were found relative to TH entrance and other key places in Siskiyous (like PGF site and Louse camp). First photo is a view of Youngs Valley. Second photo is a view of Blue Creek drainage on the backpack along the ridgeline. Third photo is of what appears to be a small footprint Fourth photo is of what appears to be a footprint