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I ran across this website that claims to be the largest repository of declassified government information on the web. Maybe we could pin this? I did a Sasquatch search and pages and pages came up. Including the 1975 Atlas! I bet we could poke around this website for a long while! http://www.theblackvault.com/community/ Enjoy!

I don't recall where I got this .. well, I do, it was a member of a group I used to camp with, but I don't recall where he got it. MIB

Hello hiflier-- I was able to attend the conference, and heard Dr. Disotell's talk. I did a post about the first day of the conference on my Strange Maine blog, and will hopefully get the 2nd day typed up and posted this weekend. Basically, what he had to say was tremendously exciting. I'll cut and paste that part of the post and tweak it a little for all you guys here (and add a few details that I know you'll be interested in too): His talk focused on the potential for researchers to utilize the recent advances in DNA technology to accomplish species surveys. Using environmental DNA drawn from topsoil, local bodies of water, etc, labs can now determine what species are in a given area, and how long ago they were there in the case of past or transient populations. Of course we leave traces of our DNA everywhere we go, and so does every other species on earth. This new methodology, environmental DNA metabarcoding, is transforming how we survey animal and plant communities. With this and other tools, Disotell urges us: "Those of us in the cryptozoology field need to do way better than we have done up to now." Up until now, he states, he has seen "zero data to convince [him] of the existence of legendary cryptids," but he is hopeful that access to new DNA technology will advance efforts, especially as the cost has plummeted now. (in answer to your question, hiflier, it sounds like either they haven't crunched the samples you refer to yet, or the data turned out not to be anything indicating an unknown hominid. He was aware of why people were asking about his results up to now.) In other words -- work hard, learn well, and use new tools -- and always keep in mind that DNA is the keystone of species identification. The process involves utilizing either local water samples or local dirt samples, and filtering them to separate all the trace DNA types present or having passed through a given area. In the case of dirt or physical debris from the topsoil, etc, the material is pulverized for analysis. He mentioned that rather than doing footprint casts, it would be more useful to cull the topsoil from the area of the print and submit that for testing, as it would undoubtedly contain trace DNA from whatever had left the print. He said that he is willing to do analysis for people, but "don't just mail me material." Initiating contact with him (his lab) to find out parameters and costs in advance would be the way to go. He said that the process costs a couple grand, but out of that you get hundreds of results, whereas the old systems cost even more and then only gave you results for a single physical specimen sample. You get a full picture of all wildlife, etc, that traverses or inhabits that region now and in the past (depending on how deep the sample digs). I hope that's helpful! I had a chance to give my own talk about what I've learned about Bigfoot in Maine from the eyewitnesses I've spoken to for the first time, which was an interesting exercise in summarizing a diverse quantity of reports in a wide range of eras into a digestible whole. Cheers from Portland, Michelle Souliere

That's a sweet unit!!

Lol. Links to a Rick Roll. Reminds me of the ad seeking someone to travel through time. You had to supply your own weapons.

In the eyes of skeptics.... who insist nothing is out there. Paul Freeman was a charlatan. If you have bad evidence and believe in Bigfoot your just a dim witted dolt. If you have really really good evidence and worked for the forest service? Well then your a intelligent charlatan looking to cash in on Bigfoot. Because Bigfoot is where the real money is in scams! And not IRS frauds or other telemarketers scams in which you trick old people into giving you their credit card number or bank account info over the phone from a air conditioned office. NO! The BIG money is in trapsing around the mountains with a camcorder, a 50 lbs bag of dental resin and a giant ape suit. Fabricating sightings reports and trackways and then coming back to town and try to convince someone.....anyone to look at it! And then somehow get them to pay you money! Now yer cooking with gas! LOL!

Thank you, Michelle. Yes, Dr. Disotell has a GoFundMe account running to help offset the cost of the e-DNA testing expenses. I will be in touch with you at some point in the near future as there is much that we might discuss. And thank you for the update and info from the Conference. And BTW 'The Green Hand' ROCKS! I used to go to the ICZM when it was around the corner from you. My son actually purchase a year membership for me one Christmas a while back. He also presented me with a postcard of a Slick Airways plane along with a Slick Airways brass button from uniform either worn by one of the flight attendants or a member of the flight crew. Yeah, my son is a pretty cool guy I will be in touch. And welcome to the Forum!

If you are referring to logging company employees, the lower level ones who would be disgruntled are for the most part undereducated and logging is all they know. They would tend to go from one logging company to the next because that is their work experience and if the industry as a whole does not talk about BF, they would keep to those traditions. Those that work for the government like their jobs and look forward to a government retirement check. Only a few of either have seen anything anyway. As far as Forest Service, their jobs are primarily funded by logging revenues. No logging, no revenue. If BF is an ancient human ancestor, they would be considered indigenous, their ancestral lands tied to them, and the political climate would not allow the manifest destiny to steal their lands like it did in the early 1800s. If the Forest Service lost half of the forest to BF tribal lands, their revenue stream and jobs would be cut in half. That would influence everyone from the ranger in the field to the head of the department to keep their mouth shut.