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After a while one has to seriously ask why do all things Bigfoot ALWAYS end up as such train-wrecks... and no, it's not the government...

Does not seem that Dr. Disotell is impressed with any in the BF research community. He wants BF researchers to step-up their game. I thought NAWAC was doing a great job and had wildlife biologists on staff, but have not heard much from them in a few years. Don't know how good Olympic Project is doing (or has done) their sample collection. Have to wait to see their nest report with the full explanation. They need to document so that lessons learned are shared and we can learn what worked well and what needs improvement.

Pretty sure you've struck upon the one thing that can emphatically be said about BF and BF'ers.

Are you guys sure the podcast was the "official" release?

Because instead of working together we are a bunch of competing tribes all at each others throats...

You, me and everyone else...........with the exception of Incorrigible1 perhaps. He's probably been waiting for a chance to drop one of those out of a tree for decades. His story of seeing one as a kid is very compelling.

If Neanderthal DNA is readily distinguishable from modern human DNA, and according to (some experts) could pass for human if dressed in modern clothing, how is it possible that an 8 to 10 foot hair covered ape like humanoid would have DNA that could be confused for modern human? That does not seem logical to me.

I do not think time degradation can be used as an excuse . These links are from Cliff's site and has to do with the nests in question. The link Cliff gives to eDNA tests being used in cave soil from different sites identified Denosovian, Neanderthal, Wooly rino, Wooly Mammoth, Cave Bear dna and the sediment layer was 90,000 years old. There was some degradation but all these were still identifiable according to the scientists. https://cliffbarackman.com/sasquatch-nest-edna-study/ https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/04/ancient-dna-sediment-neanderthal-denisovan/524433/

Years ago a friend and i were sitting on a rock next to a house, we were about to eat, he had brought lunch in a brown bag, set it down then walked off to his car. A crow came down, right in front of me and grabbed it, flew up to the peak of the roof and ate his lunch, inaccessibly, in front of him. I thought that displayed quite a good bit of intelligence and rakishness. Currently i have a troupe of Ravens that reside in the woods out front. I often wake to their croaky calls and we frequently chat out in our shared turf. Maybe i get more out of the conversation than they do, IDK. I was recently in the canyon-y Southwest, where Ravens and i would frequently watch each other. It was interesting to see them choose just the perch I had in mind for myself had i been where they were headed. They know what's up, i'm convinced. I've read Lawrence Kilham's On Watching Birds but he wrote The American Crow and Common Raven which I've not yet but it looks really good: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/97572.The_American_Crow_Common_Raven?from_search=true ".....This book explains especially the social systems of these birds, from cooperative breeding to predator mobbing. Difficult topics such as 'play' and 'thinking' in crows are interestingly and critically presented. . . . an appealing volume." --Choice " . . . his book is one of the best, most informative and engaging ones yet written about how some of these birds live, think, and feel. Kilham on crows compares favorably with Tinbergen on gulls, Goodall on chimpanzees, and Lorenz on dogs and jackdaws." --Smithsonian "