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"If you take random pics of scenery they just show up in them..." Tells me all I need to know.

I have yet to see a single piece of evidence that rivals anything that has been collected by scientifically objective research efforts. I have been absorbing information for a long time now and nothing has come up that gave me pause or sat me up in my chair. Here on this forum there are countless posts about habituation situations ( supernatural ) and every single time I read through I get to marvel at sticks leaning against a fallen tree, a few distorted impressions in the ground and photos of the treeline with red circles around some dark shadows. You are most welcome to try and change my position, I sincerely will look at evidence.

The frequencies of infra sound I detected according to University testing in the UK produce widely different effects in humans. It also depended on the human as far as size and body mass. The military has played with it and it seems to be a weapon very similar to poison gas in that it is indiscriminate and effects both friendlies and enemies in the same area. Not something the military likes. Most likely every BF capable of producing it, and I doubt all can, have their own techniques to administer it. In my case it ramped up from the lowest frequency to the highest detected then fell off to a lower frequency again. . I felt nothing electric but had the extreme fear onset, my guts and some contents of my pack were vibrating, and I got some pain on the left side of my abdomen. No visual disturbance noted. The BF seemed to be using a fire for effect technique somewhat like a singer trying to find the right note by sliding up and down the scale. Perhaps only adult males are capable of it. Perhaps it was an older juvenile trying it out on a human for the first time. Who knows. I asked it to stop and it did. Not sure if that was coincidence or it figuring that it's attempt at scaring me was not working very well, so it stopped. As an aside I have seen many come and go to this forum. Believers that hope to find something to help them have contact, people that are determined to get the gold ring of proof by shooting a BF, and skeptics who try to persuade all, even those who have witnessed one, that BF cannot exist. Most are never successful. Many loose interest and slip away. Proof is hard to get but anyone having contact, even unseen contact, can amass behavior data. Write stuff down. Report it here. While it may not be significant at this time and place, behavior data will become very important when science accepts existence. That can be a simple as I did this and the BF did that. The atmosphere here is as friendly as I have seen it. You can say most anything without being pelted with verbal tomatoes. Please share and please respect each other even if you disagree with them. Hell, I have not been suspended for a long time now so I am learning to get along too. A good atmosphere here keeps people around as members and furthers what we know. Kick in for prime membership and help pay the bills.

I have experienced woo or something paranormal as in mind speak twice. I would have thought that it was a sort of witchcraft, except for a buddy that was with me at one of those times actually saw a Sasquatch at about the same time I experienced the woo. Woo is interesting, but, after beginning to pursue it, I have decided to leave well enough alone. Too spooky for me.

I would hunt with you any day. Your always welcome in my hunting camp.

Nathanfooter: You have cherry picked the situations that are ambiguous or lack information. I agree that most stick structures are natural tree falls. Not crazy about red circles either. But I have seen and posted some very clear footprint photos so not all are "distorted impressions". Yes many are but that is what was found, not what they wanted to find. . The habituation situations are troublesome in that most of the humans involved adamently protect the BF involved. I see that as a troubling sign of a troubled human for the most part. But no one awes you anything to try to change your position. This forum exists to exchange information not turn skeptics into believers. That can only likely happen if you go into the woods and have the experience yourself.

Note to self! Don't use the word "Woo" around Huntster!

Great description of the phenomenon called pareidolia, SW! Your soapbox is well worth standing on. If newer posters on this forum learn about “ ‘dolia” then a lot of criticism can be avoided, as the newbies can then critique their own pics. I have seen posts where the poster says, “It may just be pareidolia, but I think I see a BF next to the tree...” I experienced ‘dolia myself: I’m an avid friend to wildlife on the road and thought for sure I drove past a turtle trying to cross on the opposite lane so I doubled back and stopped to take it out of the road. It turned out to be only a glove or can or rock or something....dang! Couldn’t believe my eyes (and brain) did that! But I still stop when I think I see one, and often I am right. Note to moderators or forum execs: could we have a section where excellent posts like this can be kept permanently, filed under the topic they cover? Something like “Here’s What Bigfoot Forum Members Need to Know”?

Glassing for moose, caribou, and bear for hours on end will make your mind create all kinds of things. You'll have to stare at a shadow or stump for several minutes looking for movement to confirm it's a shadow or stump. Sometimes you never figure out what you're looking at. I remember once me and my partner staring at movement in the brush well over a mile away for over an hour trying to figure out what it was. An animal, or the wind? We finally figured out that it wasn't the wind, and was a grizzly laying on and eating a dead bull moose, and the moose's antler was occasionally moving as the bear tugged at the carcass. But, frankly, not walking out there and confirming it makes that just a shared opinion. It could have been a bigfoot playing with a shed moose antler, no?

As far as blobsquatches go, those are pretty good.

FWIW, here's my blobsquatch. I'm assuming that this is who/what yelled at me. Obviously I zoomed way in. It was 50 yards away, behind dense brush and bushes. I think this could be a Sasquatch because if how I got the photo (above) and I've found barefoot prints in the same area numerous times, and have found all sorts of other stuff that we generally associate with bigfoot nearby. I took it on my cell phone while walking my dog. I was not expecting anything to be there. At all! In fact, I took this pix before it yelled. After that, I hightailed it back to my truck and my only thought was to put a lot of distance between the noise maker and myself and my old dog. And, no I don't think there's anything else in this pix. We've been back there, and it's just not dense enough to hide more than one. He may even be laying down and peeping. IDK. This is why I keep going out there.

Sometimes I have to wonder about such people that claim to have all this secret knowledge by saying things to you like that. It's so much simpler than that. The crossed sticks is obviously a sign that you are not to place your pack on "their" stump ever again. The sticks were used because they couldn't draw a red circle around a backpack with a red line through it

Well, bud, you got me on that one. The Loch Ness folks took their 200 water samples last summer. The analysis was finished in November. The results were to be announced early in January. So far, no announcement. Nothing on the internet since last July, sound familiar? All this kind of stuff runs the same MO. San Bernardino Sasquatch law suit? Nothing on the web since last March or April Loch Ness? Nothing since last July. NAWAC? Nothing. The public is always in the dark. Ridiculous.

Maybe and maybe not. I pretty well nailed down a small active area and would spend most of my field time there. I got very intrusive and pesky. I kept having interactions and when I tried to get one to break cover I got growled at. With me pestering them and clear cut logging closing in, I could not figure out why they simply did not move away. I expressed that on the forum and got some good suggestions as to why. Birthing area or nursery area were good suggestions. I decided to investigate that specifically then I discovered a collapsed lava tube. Figured that maybe the area was active because they had a cave shelter or a birthing /nursery area in the lava tube. However following the lava tube I discovered what I think was the reason. A year round artesion well was bubbling up out of the lava tube. Pure water available year round was of value to them and why they frequented the area. There may be reasons BF hang out in some given area and tolerate human pressures. Perhaps as in my case, the reasons can be discovered.

I don't believe that it makes the Bigfoot issue more complex, it does however make the bigger questions in life more complex. History shows that Sasquatch make mistakes as they are spotted running across a road, getting jumped by hunters driving deer and caught invading camps of people carrying firearms. If these things did indeed posses these powers we would not have these report events ( mistakes ) happening, risk evaluation should be the highest priority for something that can read minds and turn invisible but this is not the case according to the record. Every claim has to be challenged and the answers need to fall stone to stone against known facts or at the very least the body of data. The supernatural claims have to at least fall inline with the majority of information but we can see that this is not the case, one side calls out the other. This is clear on at least 2 levels of examination. The ordinary reports indicate lapses in judgement/execution and the supernatural indicate telepathy, invisibility and some degree of greater knowledge. <- Conflict of data. Supernatural abilities are not present in nature but perception and mental stability are both wide ranging and can change rapidly under stress. <- Argument for biology VS argument for psychology. We absolutely need to examine all claims even if they are highly unlikely. I have sat down and interviewed with dozens of folks that hold a supernatural belief in regard to Sasquatch and I learned something valuable in every single case. The most common thing I come away with is that one side of the argument has physical evidence or consequence and that the other takes pictures of the forest hoping to find Sasquatch hiding in the shadows of the picture. Who is making headway and who has more to show for it, results are everything in any pursuit. If you need to dig a hole to get to the bottom of something and you are far better off digging with a real shovel than you are with an imaginary one. I think you should, I have gotten in the middle of a few of these groups before and I can say it was an eye opening experience.

I offered examples that I have come across while reading here, more often than not this is what I end up looking at. I have found this to be true of other sites with member content and even a large portion of reports I sift through. Most of these situations are ambiguous and lack information. I urge anyone reading to Google or Youtube " Bigfoot Habituation " and you can see exactly what I am talking about. If I had a dollar for every time I heard or read " and here you can see the juvenile " I could stop working my day-job and just research for a year. I have given my 2 cents and feel that most here understand my position. Enjoy the thread folks.