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  1. Interesting that you bring that up actually. I haven't seen any investigations into those recent discoveries that say much more than 'hominid'. The Red Deer cave People, Denisovans, The Naledi, Florensis, and the now new discovery in the Philippines. They are all branches of Homo yes, but are not Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Instead they are all new species and two of them have modern Human-like feet but not Human -like hands which look to be more for climbing. So lots of Homo types but not Sapiens Sapiens. Bigfoot could be a Homo type but also not modern Human. The hominid world is opening up wide but how many of the species both new and old were hair covered from head to toe like our primate cousins in the Great Apes and Chimpanzees remains open to speculation. For all we know everything discovered so far could BE BF's and we modern Humans are the only the newest relatively hairless mutants of the bunch. Will another line of new Humans come out of Africa after us? It's anyone's guess whether Nature is actually finished with the process. Of course we are led to think that we Humans are the last of the breed but nothing really says that we are.
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  2. I suppose I'm a stickler for semantics. If I offer you a bubblegum wrapper as evidence of bigfoot, it is **evidence**. It may not support the case, but it has still been presented as evidence so it IS evidence. Something being evidence has nothing to do with whether it is accepted, the only thing that matters is that it was offered. What follows (acceptance or rejection) is based on analysis of the item of evidence offered. Stick structures ... in 5-1/2 decades in the woods, I've never seen one, not even in places where I've encountered bigfoot. I've seen two tree twists which I believe were caused by deep snow with an ice layer at the top creating a fulcrum about 5-1/2 feet above ground, then a snow mass sliding down that ice broke the trunk at the point where the ice fulcrum focused the force. And, of course, an epic amount of elk tree breaks, but the antler gouges through the bark are a dead giveaway. The single weird thing that makes me wonder was this. I've mentioned the ridge where the BF counted coup on me by sneaking up on me and only gave himself away by farting at an inappropriate moment. It's one of my favorite, most successful places to kill BIG blacktail bucks. Starting maybe 200 yards further down that ridge, and going for probably a half mile, one day the evergreen huckleberry bows were woven ... nonstop line down the top of the ridge. Came back 1-2 days later and there was no weaving/braiding, none. Weirdest thing I ever saw. There was no evidence I could find for what caused it and no evidence later it'd ever happened. A puzzle. MIB
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  3. I consider the premise to be flawed, as the evidence is not as the premise summarizes. We kept a thread going for months that pulled in scores of examples of tree manipulations, structures and other "stuff" that is difficult to explain otherwise. Moreover, there have been many accounts of these things in the context of a Class A sighting, a number of eyewitnesses to contemporaneous creation, and at least one or two witnesses to the actual creation of them. I also disagree with the premise that these structures are easily explained as being caused by natural forces/occurrences. That is a handy thought stopper, but when pressed to explain something truly extraordinary and puzzling, and are asked to give the mechanical details of how something like this could be formed, they wave their hands and mumble "ice storm, snow storm, wind...." As if those wouldn't be the first things any rational person would consider and rule out. Plenty of what you encounter in the woods is the result of natural processes, and many of the things attributed to Sasquatch manipulations undoubtedly are too. What that leaves you with though are the tougher nuts to crack and unless you can plausibly say, "THIS was caused by THIS, and this is HOW", you have as much uncertainty as the rest of us and you are going to lack a definitive explanation. For those things in that last category, the choice narrows down to "Something very strong, with a big reach, and with hands". The long list of possible causes, at that point, only has one candidate on it.
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