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I don't necessarily mean professional scientists. I wonder how many students of the phenomenon were inspired by PG? I see science at the end of the parade asking "Did you see a crowd go by here? I'm their leader."

Because it’s the coolest Bigfoot Forum on the internet! Duh!

That is a interesting article. Thanks Norse for sharing. Perhaps the contamination is not real but is simply human

Key phrase: .... ground nests are common in gorilla..... https://www.eva.mpg.de/documents/Wiley-Blackwell/Fruth_Sleep_AmJPhysAnthr_2018_2627710.pdf The other element is fairly sophisticated live limb weaving even in temporary nests. Fruth_Sleep_AmJPhysAnthr_2018_2627710.pdf

Ahem..... https://www.livescience.com/19708-primates-build-sleeping-nests.html

Your probe around pluto example triggered an idea I have been kicking around. There are places I want to explore that I cannot get to. Too remote, too far from roads, so that getting in there would require bushwacking through heavy timber for days. Maybe I need to develop a relatively inexpensive probe that I can parachute into some of these places and wait for a curious BF to wake the thing up? A more expensive option would be to land a rover that can move around in its own. That would take an amatuer radio operator license to have the radio range to control it and receive pictures. I just have a nagging gut feeling that there are BF villages of sort in some of those remote places.

They must really think I'm stupid. How many times do they think they can do this? They've been doing it with dinosaur fossils for over a century, and nothing has changed. In fact, this is really round two. The first gorilla skulls and then carcass were brought out of Africa right as Darwin published "On the Origin of Species", and the games with gorillas continued well beyond his later publication of "The Descent of Man".

Funny how even though Denisovans can be so amazingly articulated from the DNA soup WITHOUT ANY Human contamination but the nesting samples and all the rest FAIL on that front. i.e., ALL are contaminated by Humans. It makes no sense whatsoever. Who determines this stuff anyway? Denisovan DNA thousands of years old and other hominid finds are always just fine but, nope, not Sasquatches. It's beginning to sound like the old neither confirm nor deny game? Samples are contaminated unless they happen to come from Denisovans?

That's a really neat article, but I'm afraid it's the same gobbledegoop that I used to sucker for as a kid in the early 1960's. It's not a bit different than any sasquatch article one might find in a newsletter or website. It's a review of a claim written by one or a few people and accepted by a publication to publish. These same people, just like judges on an appeals court, have the right to simply refuse to hear arguments or suggestions for any reason whatsoever, and they do it all the time. The DNA game boils down to the same demand we know so well: they want a carcass, they want it for free, they want it delivered, and they want to be able to look down on the cretin who killed the creature. Then, and only then, will they extract DNA that will magically enable them to locate ancestral sasquatches everywhere, tell us all about their history, tell you that you are related to them, and make decisions that will chart their (and our) futures. Until then, any and all DNA found in crude nests in PNW rainforests that comes back as "human" will be considered "contaminated".

I respect their opinion. Not there. Didn't see what they saw. So,this is not proven. Sightings are not new. Been reported for countless years. The mythical creatures remain just that. Who reports them is of no significance. The only thing that matters is real proof. There is none.

We have members here that have seen them clearly . No mistaken identity . One of the staff on this forum has posted his sighting while slowing down in his car and being withing a few yards of the creature .

The PG film inspired not a single peep from either the California Department of Fish and Game or the USFWS. Not then, not since, and not now. Their silence is more than deafening; it's suspicious, and it's incriminating. And "science"? This comment from anatomist D.W. Grieve of the Royal Free Hospital School of Medicine: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterson–Gimlin_film IOW, he emotionally can't accept the possibility that sasquatches exist, and notes that have reacted similarly. So much for "science", or the notion that photographic evidence will prompt such people to do anything about it.

I have a deep background in data modeling and can offer to help. I just downloaded the csv and took a look and immediately see a bunch of things I can suggest. I can PM if you like. If I understand correctly you are still adding to this from another source. If that is the case, we should make the changes on your end. If this a complete dataset then I would go ahead (I have SQL Server but not Access - I'll download that and see if it will import). One thing I'll mention is this would be nice to map in Power BI. If columns BV and BW are lat/lon this should work well!

Put up or shut up. But to state "somebody has something, but you can't see it" is a fairy tale of the highest order.

Here is Canada. Gotta believe there's a lot of Sasquatch in Northern Canada, with not a lot of people there to have the encounters.

yeah me too... Maybe if we talk about sightings, the thread hi-jack will cease. Here is a map of most (imagine more in Canada and Alaska) reports in the SSR database. I'm working on the John Green reports (for probably the next couple of years)

It's because few if any ever place any pressure on science and their scientists in particular to dig in hard on the subject. I honestly hate saying this, I really do, but over the last two years I have emailed primatologists, scientists, anthropologists, DNR people, F&W people and others and let me tell you, Hunster, I quit. It's pointless to continue any more efforts along those lines. What pisses me off most, Hunster, is everyone here knew I was putting in those efforts and just sat back and simply watched me fail. THEY WATCHED ME FAIL! I think some even enjoyed watching me fail so they could say, "See, hiflier? Told you so. NYAH, NYAH!" Everyone happy now? Here's the thing, 50 people will go out of their way, pay money, and show up at an Olympic Project Sasquatch Expedition, not find a Sasquatch, but I can't get even just two people on this entire Forum to write a simple email to help put some pressure where it needs to be put. So...yeah.....I quit. I'll get to look at more pictures of your stick structures though so all is not lost, right? That should make me happy.

Those frickin liars. 🙄