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I don't believe that is correct. True no-glow trail cams transmit IR light above 940 nanometers. Kindly provide a list of the mammals that can see IR light above that level.

Thats why introducing a gun into the equation keeps everyone honest. You do not hoax armed hunters.

That sucks. Drag it got to that point. I've never ridden a snow mobile, how hard would it have been to back up that trail once he saw the moose? Give it a few minutes to let the moose go on his way.

But did he have to...from the get go...he kept pushin' forward. Moose's backyard the snowmobiler entered, I think it's a shame is all in my opinion. Got nothin' against huntin'...just sad ta see a animal killed for no apparent reason. Least he could have done when he drove by, is put a round or two in its head, end it. Just my opinion is all. Pat...

I don't know. During one encounter when I heard one moving around, I tried very hard to get it to break cover by moving towards it. I could hear thumps and thuds as I tried to close on it and it moved tree to tree away from me to maintain cover. But I never got so much as a glimpse of it broad daylight. A Flir would not have done any better than my eyes. There were a large number of blow down trees in that area that prevented me from moving very fast because I had to crawl under or over them. The only way that the BF could maintain cover that I can think of, is that it was crawling faster away from me than I was able to move towards it. If it had been upright I would have likely seen it. Finally it got tired of the game and growled at me. After the growl, one behind me broke off a tree with a huge crack. It had flanked me when I was trying to get the other to break cover. I withdrew in a direction away from both sounds which was 90 degrees from the direction I had been moving. I was lucky that direction was out into a clearcut. Neither one seemed inclined to want to show itself even to scare me off. That was the only time I thought about unholstering my weapon around a BF. The one that growled was obviously ticked at me. If either one of the two had done a bluff charge and showed itself, I probably would have gotten the gun out. Since they didn't show, I figured I was safer just moving away. In retrospect it was dumb to try to corner the BF. You take away any animals means to escape and it gets dangerous.

Don't think anyone is all that surprised at that. Truly think the show wasn't intended for that. Animal Planet has enough money to go all out on the search but NOPE. Not gonna happen.

Yup.

I had a private conversation with Cliff one time and he told me "Finding Bigfoot" will never find BF. I think at one point when the ratings started to drop the producers wanted to spice things up by faking events like Mountain Monsters were doing. The on screen characters revolted and threatened to quit. So the producers dropped those plans. Because of that I have a bit of suspicion that the production staff may have been doing stuff that the on screen characters may not have been aware of. Returning a wood knock or howl would have been very easy for someone in the production staff and Cliff and bunch would have never known. Over time even BF believers stopped watching the show for various reasons. I think that was the point where the ratings really tanked.

Not true. http://wwfgap.org/projects/thermal/index2.html

I agree, the scent of nice warm canola oil might be as attractive to a bear as a serving of French fries is to us, but since it's being used to carve up a large, fresh, bloody carcass, I'm already on high alert for Ursus, of whatever species, where I hunt. About 20 years ago, I was in the Yahk headwaters just a week before 2 elk hunters were killed by a sow grizzly and her cub, while packing the quarters out. Five years later, a couple of my buddies returned at dusk to the same campsite that I was using in that area, and were charged by a single grizzly, and were forced to shoot it. It fell dead at the feet of the guy closest to the campfire. After making the compulsory report to F&W, who came out to investigate, it was declared a genuine emergency kill.

Some of you might enjoy these pics and this report. Thanks @Lamplight for coming forward and sharing.

South fork of Sherman creek off of hwy 20 (Sherman pass) Found what looked like Black bear hair. Found where he was scratching up a post at the USFS corral. I usually park here when I bring the horse trailer. Someone cut the head and buttons off of a rattle snake ahead of me on the FS rd. Saw some deer is all. Pretty uneventful. I didn’t crash....that was a plus.

I just got back from an exploratory trip to the Mogollon Rim in Arizona. I split my trip into 2 three day camping trips. First section of trip was not BF related, but the second portion was to explore an area that I have never visited (Mogollon Rim northeast of Payson). Based on the SSR Bigfoot reports map below, I targeted to explore the area around Bear Canyon Lake and Knoll Lake. I and a colleague spent one night near Bear Canyon Lake (first photo) and 2 nights near Knoll Lake (2nd photo). These lakes are man-made (both got dams) and are very popular for fishing. Saw lots of people camping in both places the first week of June. On the last day we swung by Woods Lake and it was a zoo of people. My guess is that these Forest Lakes are very popular for folks in Phoenix who are trying to avoid the summer heat and want to do some fishing. Protocol was to hike during the day on abandoned jeep trails and look for tracks or signs. We did limited off-trail hiking to explore some of the canyons. At night, we hiked 2-3 miles into some of these abandoned jeep trails – mainly to better listen to the wildlife and avoid noise from other campers. We heard owls, nighthawks, and other birds that I don’t have the knowledge to categorize. We did not hear any coyotes at night. We saw 2 white tail deer and the skeleton of an elk (probably left by hunters?). We also ran into a dead deer and saw the cougar that killed it (see story below). We saw plenty of deer and elk footprints and scat. We saw no bear or bear scat. We saw no BF footprints nor we heard any anomalous sounds (day or night) while we were there. My Thermal Imager paid for itself on this incident The first night near Bear Canyon Lake, we decided to walk down an abandoned jeep trail that headed north from the lake parking lot and followed Bear Canyon all the way north. This jeep trail is not shown on the topo map. See topo map below with the purple line showing approximately where the trail is. I wanted to explore it because it followed the canyon closely and I figured many animals will be going down to the canyon for water. Also, this trail passed by a power line and was close to quarry (common features of areas with BF presence). We hiked about 1.8-2.0 miles north and headed back around 9:30 PM. On the way back, at about 0.5 mile from lake parking lot (~10 PM), we both saw eye-shine to our right up the hill. (We were using regular white light flashlight and not following the BFRO rules of red-light in order to avoid tripping and falling). We clearly saw 2 eyes but they were not moving. I got my thermal imager out of the bag and set it on white hot with red hot for picking up above average thermal signature. We picked up two red hot signatures that were not moving – one medium size and one small. (The small one was a hot rock). I gave my thermal imager to my colleague and told him to scan the area while I was going to walk to the medium size target to see what it was. The target was about 30-40 ft away up the hill and I could not tell what it was with thermal or flashlight. When I got within 10 ft of it, I shined my flashlight and clearly saw a small dead deer (looked like a fawn). I told my friend that I was going to get closer to take a photo when he said there was a bigger red hot target above me that was moving. Then he said it was a cougar and to get the out of there quickly. The cougar was about 30-40 ft from me per my friend’s assessment. I quickly retreated and took back my thermal imager to see what he was seeing and indeed saw a large 4 legged creature moving sideways (not towards us). We quickly packed up our gear and left. That deer must have been killed recently because its signature was just as hot as the cougar. We did not hear any struggle of the deer (on the way north or south). Even when the cougar was moving, there was no noise. I believe that had we not had the thermal imager, I would have gotten closer to the dead deer and taken that picture and maybe the cougar would have protected its food. Lessons learned for me, when hiking at night: - Look for eye-shine (left and right of trail) as you are hiking - Keep your thermal imager ready to better detect wildlife When I camp solo, I usually do not hike at night and stay put at campsite. But in this case, my colleague and I wanted to explore at night. There are risks when hiking at night and we humans have the disadvantage.

You've been WAITING? You're time would have been better spent seriously solving the question of existence beyond opinion. Unless going around in circles ad nauseam is something you just like to do. Personally it's never been my cup of tea. On topic, these reports are compelling but people just read them and move on. Sure, they're interesting but there's thousands of them and not one shows a lick of proof. Is that okay? Must because no matter how seemingly compelling or truthful a report may sound it's a dead end. Always has been. When is enough enough for everyone? Looks like never to me. Just like the reports we read, and some are pretty amazing, people still find footprints (just like before), people still guess at stick structures (just like before), people still hear a howl or two....but that isn't progress. What WOULD be progress? A body? Well, yeah, that would do it, we ALL know that. Is it going to happen? More than likely not. So what does that leave for choices? Not a whole heck of a lot. But if everyone's fine with that then great. My 'rants' as you seem to like to call them (not too derogatory, but who's counting anyway, right?) stem from something that is hands down the EASIEST thing to do. But if everyone want to do things the hard way then go for it. I've watched everyone here fail to get proof from the field for nearly six years, including myself, but so few want, or have tried, to do things differently along with what they're already doing. THAT is what logically doesn't make sense. Not a rant, Twist, just an observation. And it's one that I find just short of impossible to understand. Always have. So, wanna report? Here's one of my favorites and it ISN'T 40 years old: https://sasquatchchronicles.com/hog-hunter-watches-bigfoot-kill-hog/