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This is the first sound pulled from Northwind's audio, from about 46 seconds. Doesn't sound like a bark to me. I'll be able to give this clip more attention when I get home from PA. There is some very low frequency noise that follows. I left that in there. First Sound.mp3

RedHawk454, back in the '70s I had a Jeep J3000 pickup, I think it was a '58 or so. it still had the vertical 7 bar Jeep grill, not the wide one in your J10 pic above. It was school bus yellow, had the straight 6, burning lots of oil, 17" split rim wheels, a 4 speed manual with no overdrive, and 5.14 gears. It topped out at about 55 MPH, but was pretty much unstoppable in the bush. That photo brought back some great memories, as the J3000 was my 1st 4x4.

In my experience with BF in a handful of encounters, when I do something that upsets them, if I back off, give them space to withdraw etc. things are fine. The time when I tried to corner one and get it to break cover, it got ugly and dangerous. If they feel like they are controlling the situation things seem to be OK. When I have tried to gain control, and this can apply to a lot of things, it causes problems and angry reactions on their part. If they are chasing you out of an area leave. GIve them what they seem to want. Almost all of my experience has been solo. But quite honestly solo is not safe on several levels. Break a leg without a PLB and you are toast. However I think solo has allowed contact in situations where a BF would never approach more than one person. So I honestly presume that risk may be worth the reward. The temperament of BF may depend on the region. If your local BF have had bad interactions with humans, been shot at, shot, or whatever, then probably all interactions are going to be ugly and dangerous for you. If your locals have had good experience with humans then the opposite may be true. You never know until you have contact. Grizzly in Colorado are going to be much more of a risk than BF. As a matter of fact BF may keep grizzly away if you are in their area, so having BF close may be a big positive. I would bet a lot of money that BF and Grizzly are mortal enemies. Grizzly are so bad tempered I cannot imagine them getting along with any other species. And it both are predators then the problems really get bad because of competition for game. Bear spray at a minimum or both a gun and that for the bears. If you try either on a BF I don't think we would hear from you again unless you carry more than a hand gun.

I've been to this location and it's definitely out in the woods. It's not a popular destination road. It basically goes nowhere. NorthWind, does the road there continue on down into that valley? How accessible is it? Huffing and chuffing can sound like barks, too.

I plan on spending some time around the Holy Cross Wilderness of Colorado this fall, and will be alone. I use a PLB and bear spray if I feel I need it. Typically 2 to 5 nights in the backcountry. Rather not be doing it alone but I dont know anyone with the time or effort to get out there. I've always felt pretty safe but don't get me wrong...theres been a few panic attacks.

Thank you for letting us know

Yes, this was in Oregon. The Cascade range. I am reasonably sure that we were alone up there. It's pretty "out there" where we were. Looking on Google Earth, there IS a road that goes down to the area we heard the sounds, and it IS a dead end, accessible from the same road we were on. We had seen no other vehicle up there all day. Now I suppose some folks could have been camping down there. In three different locations on the road. About a half mile to a mile apart, I would guess. With each camp having a dog that sounded just like the other two camps' dogs. And each camp not having a real "campground" but just a turnout on the side of the road. With no smoke at dinnertime. No access to the river. But that scenario, to me, while theoretically possible, seems nearly ridiculously unlikely. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Tw8HtTDsYZXMd_MHfgqiDQp3APq4V8L- That's the audio file. Actually a bunch of them in order of recording. They are amplified in Audacity, and trimmed. Each recording is separated by a 440Hz tone. Many times in these, the "bark" comes at the beginning of the clip because the recorder I have has a "buffer" where I can hear a sound and then hit the button and it has still recorded. Saves battery life somewhat. Sorry there are some loud noises of knocks and yells on occasion.

Can't know in absolute terms but you can establish a very healthy improbability. North Wind is indeed in Oregon. Parts are not merely rural. For instance, my current research area is about 12 miles from the nearest house, 4 miles from any roads, 2+ miles from any established trails. Not only have I seen no people (or dogs), I have not found any sign of humans less than 30 years old. Not so much as a boot track. The only canine tracks I've found so far are those of a semi-resident wolf pack. MIB

Gotcha. No, sorry. It's not appropriate for me to share the content. Not bigfoot-related other than being from one person with a bigfoot interest to another. Thinking of the book, I think distribution may have been very limited, only a few hundred copies per printing and they seem to all be collectible at collector prices, not mass-marketing prices. Those are good books you list. I enjoyed The Locals and Valley of the Skookum. It is unfortunate that those trying to curry favor with the scientific establishment deliberately omit the weird found in the raw reports from the published version in order to present a false image of what they think is credibility. By selling out in that way, they do all witnesses and all people interested in the topic a gross disservice. It **is** part of the picture. I'm not sure we are going to understand bigfoot, what they are, what they aren't, when we're only willing to look at a fraction of the total picture. Certainly doing so has not produced results so far, and you know the saying about the definition of insanity being continuing to do the same failed thing expecting the results to change. We need to look at the reports, back-track to separate interpretation from observation, and see what explanations exist .. including deliberate misdirection. MIB

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I re-collated Bobbie Short's collection from the area (hers were collated around communities, and I did so chronologically). I only included those reports between the ocean on the west, I-5 on the east, the Oregon border on the north, and Highway 36 to the south. (These parameters were rather arbitrary and exclude a whole bunch of reports that might include the resident sasquatch population of the region). This should be cross referenced and married up with John Green's and BFRO's database and Tirademan's historical list for a more complete picture, as well as including the Shasta area, southwest Oregon area, and the area between Highway 36 and the Bay Area. My own learning on animal migrations (including those of notable seasonal migrations like barren ground caribou) strongly indicates that migrations over 500 miles are uncommon and unlikely for individual animals. As an example, a migration from the Bluff Creek area directly to the Blue Mountains isn't likely, first because of the distance, and secondly because of the geography between the two regions. If Patty's immediate family migrated out of the area, they almost certainly traveled north or south within either the Coast Range or the Cascades, or southeast around the Shasta shadow into the Sierra Nevada mountains. http://www.bigfootencounters.com 1886. Jack Dover and others see Bigfoot between Happy Camp and the Marble Mountains. 1934. Dave Zebo follows a set of BF tracks up Weaver Bally Mountain. 1936 Dave Zebo sees BF tracks on Mt. Bally heading over the mountain. 1952. A man sees a Bigfoot on a dirt road north of Orleans that comes out at the mouth of Bear Creek and goes through Bear Valley. After driving on, he later stops and gets out of the car. The BF comes toward him menacingly, then turns and stalks down the road, then suddenly charges back to attack the car as the man drives away. The BF holds onto the car for 200 yards before letting go. January 1958. Mrs. Bud Ryerson and several others see BF tracks on Martin's Ferry Hill near Weitchpec. [hwy 169 today] August 1958. Road builders Ray Wallace and Jerry Crew find 16-inch BF tracks all around a parked Caterpillar Tractor 20 miles *south of Weitchpec* [sic] just South of Bluff Creek. The tracks reappear a month later and plaster casts are taken. Weekly thereafter, Jerry sees Bigfoot tracks going from Northwest to Southeast on the same logging road. Ray Wallace finds human-like droppings the size of those a 1200 pound horse would make. Wilbur Wallace, Ray's brother, finds a full 55 gallon oil drum carried to the edge of the road and thrown down the hill. He also finds a 20 foot length of 18" culvert carried some distance away and a 700 pound tire & wheel for a "carry all" which had been rolled for a quarter mile and hurled into a ravine. September, 1958. Bigfoot tracks are seen 4 different times on Bluff Creek Road, Titmus is notified. October 1, 1958. Jerry Crew finds a quarter mile of BF tracks on Bluff Creek Road and makes casts after Bob Titmus tells him how to pour the casts. October 12, 1958. Ray Kerr and Leslie Breazeale see a BF cross a 20' road in 2 strides and find tracks several miles south of where they are usually seen on Bluff Creek Road. Hired by Ray Wallace to track BF, they redouble their hunting effort but their dogs disappear a few days later and are never seen again. (The hunting dogs trained by and belonged to Ivan Marx in Burney California who hunted with them). Mid October, 1958. BF tracks are seen again in Bluff Creek. October 23, 1958. BF tracks are seen on Bluff Creek Road once again. October 28, 1958. 2 miles of 16" BF tracks are seen on Bluff Creek Road. October 30, 1958. BF tracks are seen going down a hill from Bluff Creek Road. November 2, 1958. Bob Titmus and Ed Patrick find BF tracks on a Bluff Creek Sandbar. December 18. 1958. Betty Allen finds 6 miles of BF tracks on Bluff Creek Road, expressed fear in her articles. 1958. A woman and her daughter see a large and small Bigfoot on a hillside above Hoopa Valley just Northwest of Willow Creek. 1958. While driving on Highway 299 east of Weaverville, 2 doctors see a Bf cross the highway at night. 1958. Lawrence Omeg sees a Bigfoot outside his shack after work on a logging job. He quits his job and leaves the following day. Two other Indian fellows walk off the job the same day. August 16, 1959. Bob Titmus finds 300 yards of BF tracks along Bluff Creek Sandbar. 1959. A husband and wife flying a private plane over Bluff Creek see and follow BF tracks until they pass over the BF making them. August 30, 1959. Bob Titmus finds more BF tracks at Bluff Creek Sandbar. November 1, 1959. Bob Titmus finds more BF tracks at Bluff Creek Sandbar, notifies Tom Slick, Green & Dahinden. Titmus' discovery was 8 years before Patterson filmed the BF. November 2, 1959. Betty Allen finds BF tracks coming down a canyon and along Bluff Creek Road, phones Titmus. January 30, 1960. Betty Allen finds BF tracks around a shovel loader on Humboldt Fir logging road at Bluff Creek. March 1960. Ivan Marx finds BF tracks near the lookout on Offield Mountain. June 19, 1960. Dr. Charles Johnson and his family find BF tracks on both sides of the Klamath River a half mile west of Bluff Creek. August 7, 1960. Bob Titmus finds 2 sets of BF tracks walking along a road 9 miles south of Weitchpec, near Hoopa tracking towards Willow Creek. August 14, 1960. Bob Titmus sees the same 2 sets of BF tracks he saw a week before (see 64) on Mill Creek Ridge Road, 8 miles southeast of Hoopa. 1960-1963. Benjamin Wilder sees a BF at night east of Orleans, California. 1962 - Enis Schofield described how his fencing was torn down fencepost by fencepost the week after it was erected nearby the Bluff Creek Resort. Each post was pulled up out of its concrete piling in the ground which Schofield said required unheard of strength and was probably done because it blocked a pathway the Big Feet people used to reach the creek every night. Pointing toward the hillside, he told Betty Allen, "They come down the hill there, you can see their tracks and they seem to go down to the creek to drink or maybe to go up it, because no tracks come back up the hill. They come out somewheres else," he told Allen. Schofield told the reporter they didn't feel safe barbequeing outdoors anymore and were contemplating selling their cabin to Saunders boys, owners of the Resort on the main road. (Dale Schofield 2007) August 19, 1962. Skip Clark finds and casts Bigfoot tracks at Bluff Creek sandbar. September 26, 1962. Bob Titmus finds miles of BF tracks on Bluff Creek Road and in the creek bottom itself. April, 1963. Bob Titmus finds and casts 3 sets of tracks near Hyampom. May, 1963. Sylvester McCoy finds BF tracks near Hyampom. June 22, 1963. Skip Clark finds and casts a 15 inch BF track on Bluff Creek sandbar. June 30, 1963. BF tracks 10 to 15 inches long are found and cast in the Bluff Creek area. 1963. Pat Graves follows BF tracks for 5 miles from Laird Meadow to Bluff Creek Road at Notice Creek. Sticks 1¼ in thick are found broken in the tracks. 1963. Dave Blake finds BF tracks where a barrel of diesel fuel was thrown off the road. 1963. BF tracks 15 inches long are found at Bluff Creek logging operations, with boxes of spikes thrown around and sticks of dynamite bitten into. August, 1963. BF tracks are found on Bluff Creek Road at Notice Creek bridge. August 3, 1963. A man and his boy see a BF leap over a 5 foot fence and run into the woods near Hoopa. June 13, 1963. BF tracks 16 inches long are found crossing Notice Creek near Bluff Creek only 100 feet away from where 3 men were sleeping in a car. October 1963. Al Hodgson finds a set of BF tracks a few hundred yards above the Notice Creek bridge at Bluff Creek sandbar. The sandbar was washed away in the 1964 flood. Fall, 1963. A man sees Bigfoot tracks heading south of the Hyampom area. 1963. Thomas Sourwine says a 300 pound boulder was used to repeatedly smash road building equipment parked at the time near Bluff Creek upper road. Summer 1964. Dave Blake often finds BF tracks at Laid Meadow at Blake and Tregoning Logging operation west of Bluff Creek. A culvert 4 feet in diameter and 20 feet long is thrown into the canyon and 450 pound barrels of diesel fuel are moved around. August 1964. A man finds 12 inch and 14 inch BF tracks high up the north side of Low Gap in the north Yolla Bolla near Saddle Camp. The tracks are in 3 different places several miles apart. August 21, 1964. Roger Patterson finds and casts 17 inch tracks with a 52 inch stride on Laird Meadow Road. September, 1964. Samuel Brewer Jr. finds and casts a 15½ inch BF tracks with a 47 inch stride along Bluff Creek. Fall, 1964 . Dave Blake sees BF tracks around his logging equipment every morning for a week. A trailer load of 18 inch culverts is overturned while men are working nearby. 1965 Indian road grader operator Dewey Haupe hears distant night whistles while bear hunting with Titmus, one whistle would cause a return whistle from opposite direction. Titmus tells Haupe it's BF 1965, September - Mark Karr said he drove his vehicle into a tree to avoid hitting a Bigfoot that was in the road. Wednesday, June 30, 1993 Source: By Hugh Dellios, Chicago Tribune. 1965. Jay Rowland finds BF tracks along Bluff Creek a short distance from Notice Creek. July, 1965. Steve Sanders and 2 others sleeping the a tent awake to see a large finger or stick opening their tent flap. Their yells scare it off. Investigating the next day, they find BF tracks 17 inches long and 7 inches wide around their tent at Blue Lake near Bluff Creek. January 1966. Bob Kelly and Archie Bradshaw see a Bigfoot peering into their cabin window. Bob fires his shotgun at the Bigfoot and thinks he hits it. They find 18 inch tracks in the leading into Hayfork Creek from Wildwood. April 2, 1966. Nick Campbell sees a Bigfoot searching through the trash cans at a campsite north of Weaverville in the Trinity Alps. The next day, he sees the BF again 3 miles west of camp and spends a half hour playing hide and seek with it. Several other campers see the same Bigfoot. It raids the trash can two more nights and is seen one more time. Jason Edwards parents told him that they saw a family of 4 BF while hunting bear in the Bluff Creek area in 1966. Two adults and a medium size and smaller one. This was before Jason was born; probably 1965. The senior Edwards hunted with Marx and Titmus. 1966 Larry Browning sees a BF near his campsite north of Weaverville in the Trinity Alps. 1966. Richard Sides sees a BF squatting at Bluff Creek drinking water with cupped hands. Fall, 1966. Jay Roland sees BF tracks on a road a Scorpion Creek in the Bluff Creek area. October 25, 1966. Dan Mullens finds BF tracks and an unopened case of oil cans crushed on Notice Creek. Winter, 1966. After a 2 day absence from their house 2 miles west of Platina, Mr. and Mrs. Hampton find their door broken off at the hinges. They find 18 inch Bigfoot tracks in the snow. August, 1967. Several BF tracks are found and cast by a road crew on Onion Mountain, west of Bluff Creek. The tracks measure 13 and 15 inches long. August, 1967 Al Hodgson see's Patterson's 9" track on Bluff Creek Sandbar; casts a 14" track. August 1967. Bud Ryerson sees hundreds of 13 to 15 inch BF tracks on the road he is building on Blue Creek Mountain, west of Bluff Creek. Tractor parts are scattered all over the area. Notifies John Green by company radio phone saying, "What you're looking for is here..." August 15, 1967 Road grader operator Dewey Haupe arriving early to work discovers hour glass tracks near water tower, notifies Titmus and Ivan Marx. Summer, 1967 Roger Patterson poured a plaster of paris cast of a left & right 9" child's track and shows Al Hodgson the tracks while he was up there. 1967. Russell Summerville sees a 9 foot BF walk 50 feet along Highway 299 one half mile west of Willow Creek and then go into the woods. June 19, 1967 Dewey Haupe finds lg tracks around his road grader 8am on a Monday morning; tells friend Larry Omeg then phones Titmus from Ed Saunder's place. Summer 1967 Jim McClarin begins carving his now famous "Willow Creek BF Statue." No specific date given, just summer and said it was on the same day Patterson filmed the female Bigfoot. August 1967. BF tracks 16 inches long are found for 3 miles on Bluff Creek Road going from East Fork to Notice Creek by Bud Ryerson; he notifies Bob Titmus. August 1967 J. Crew and D. Haupe mention to Titmus a disturbance around the equipment staging area down near the bridge, vandals or BF? August 1967. Bud Ryerson sees hundreds of 13 to 15 inch BF tracks on the road he is building on Blue Creek Mountain, west of Bluff Creek. Tractor parts are scattered all over the area; he notifies John Green, Bob Titmus and Al Hodgson. Green brings in tracking dogs, Jim McClarin, Rene Dahinden, S.C. Buttram and Dale Moffitt. August 27/September Labor Day week1967 John Green and Rene Dahinden fly down to Bluff Creek in chartered Cessna 185 landing at Orleans airstrip; tracks are photographed. Al Hodgson and son Mike drive family station wagon to pick them up. Green tells Al Hodgsons to phone Patterson. October 20, 1967. Bob Gimlin and Roger Patterson see and film motion pictures of a female BF just above Notice Creek between Onion Mountain, Bee Mountain and Fish Creek Butte. Her tracks measure 14½ inches long. Mike Fordon, while sleeping in his Dodge van at Gray's Falls Campground wakes up at about midnight because a BF is kicking his tires and rocking his van violently. Mike sees the BF's hairy chest, chin and hand through the van's windows. The 8 foot BF continues to harass the van for 2 hours, until Mike Blows the horn. April 6, 1968. After 2 more visits to the same campsite with no luck seeing another BF, Larry Browning sees a BF wading the South Fork of the Salmon River. The next day, a female BF follows him for a half hour on a hike, then charges him. April 8, 1968 At the same campground, Mike Melton sees a BF leaning over the river to get a drink of water. June 1968. Steve Marlin and Bruce Cornwall find BF tracks between Bluff Creek and Fish Lake. July 11, 1968. A BF walks past a family camping by the Trinity River near Salyer. January 1969. Pat Graves sees BF tracks from a plane between Blue Creek Divide and Nikowitz Road. 1969. Peter Byrne, Brian Matthes and Steve Matthes find Bigfoot tracks along Bluff Creek. Byrne does exhaustive investigation of Patterson site in 1972, photos in B & W with Mike Hodgson - Al Hodgson's son. Late May, 1969. Dr. Bernard Northrup and a party of San Francisco Theological Seminary Students find over 1000 16" BF tracks in the Bluff Creek area. They also find torn, twisted bark stripped from the trees near the tracks in the sand. It may be that the individual who left the big 16" tracks after the summer 1967 at Bluff Creek was one of the survivors; and it may also be that this was the same individual whose track Jerry Crew first cast that became a media sensation. August, 1969. The owner of the Bluff Creek Resort and a small cluster of fishing cabins, Ed Saunders found a line of 16-inch Bigfoot tracks in the sandbar at the mouth of Bull Creek in the Bluff Creek area. Bill Saunders, Ed's brother acted the mechanic and handyman there in and around the resort. Ed and his wife were a bit edgy about scaring off the public... Mike Burke, Buck Ferguson and Bill Mueller find BF tracks with a 5-foot stride beyond Twin Lakes Turnoff at Camp Creek near Orleans, California. June, 1969. Bob Hardesty and Dick Carroll find BF tracks along the Klamath River in Siskiyou County. July 1969. Don Ballard and a companion riding horseback see a BF in the Trinity Alps near Trinity Center. July 4, 1969. Eldon Brackett see a 7½ foot Bigfoot with 16½ inch tracks and a 4 foot stride north of Wildwood. June, 1969. Ben Foster and several others see a 6 foot Bigfoot fighting with dogs at the Wildwood Inn. July 14, 1969. George Haas and John Dana find ¼-mile of Bigfoot tracks on a trail at West Low Gap in the Yolla Bolla Mountains going to the East Fork of the South Fork of the Trinity River. The tracks are 16 inches long and the stride is 3 feet. April, 1970. Buzz McLaughlin see a 9 foot Bigfoot at Manzanita Ranch School, Hyampom. May 14, 1970. Archie Buckley sees a 7 foot Bigfoot with 15 inch tracks at Stuart Gap, south of Wildwood. Marci Honstead sees the head and shoulders of Bigfoot outside her bedroom window during an electrical storm. Approx.1982. August, 1995: Vacationing truck driver and wife watch as Sasquatch holding sea weed in his hands disappears across the hiway into the woods from the beach with black sand. Observer wishes to make contact with the other observer in the other car.