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I'm not convinced that is true. Might be, but most DNA testing which is intended to distinguish one species from another looks at a specific subset of gene locii where we know we can distinguish one known species from another. Since modern humans are distinct from other species, we only have to check one of those known locations to tell us from chimp from gorilla, etc. In other words, when we are doing species identification, we do not look at the entire mitochondrial gene set and we do not look at the nuclear DNA at all. All we are trying to do is show the sample is human by eliminating KNOWN alternatives. If Homo erectus is 99.5% identical to us and chimp is 98% identical, it stands to reason that the "earmarks" for human DNA are shared by Homo erectus. After all, those tests are looking for things all humans have in common, not the differences one human has from another. It is only when you get beyond species ID testing that differences between H. sapiens sapiens and H. erectus should show up. That means the only way we see the oddity in the DNA is if we ignore the appearance of human contamination in the initial testing and forge onward "wasting money" testing seemingly contaminated samples. If we were to do the level of testing necessary to prove paternity or something of that nature, I think we'd begin seeing incredible differences that the species identification tests gloss over. During Sykes study, if I recall right, there was one sample tested which came back as a very rare eastern European genome found in the US desert SW. Ok, maybe it was a rare human migrant. But maybe it wasn't. It was noted as an oddity and to my understanding no further followup was done. Should have been if it was that odd and seemingly that out of place. Yet another opportunity squandered to assumption. That's why I want that good enough sample .. probably have to see the thing bleed on something and KNOW, through observation, rather than just hope, that it is bigfoot, then go ahead and spend the money for full mtDNA and nuDNA workup no matter how irriational and wasteful it seems to anyone who wasn't there to see what left the blood. Or, y' know, in your case, have the body on a slab and know that the sample you're paying to have tested IS ... ****IS**** ... bigfoot, 'cause there he is right there. When you have that certainty, not just a hope, then you do the test despite all the logical reasons why you shouldn't because whatever the test says, it is going to be the truth. MIB

But, somehow, 40,000 year old DNA from slivers of finger bone from the dirt of a Siberian or Flores cave is as pure as the driven snow.

Because that's what they wanted to find, a north american version of african / asian apes, definitely not an almost human. Reflects the mindset of the time. And because of that "certainty", they threw out a very great deal of evidence that contradicted their assumptions without giving it a serious look. Imagine if we had the raw samples they had in the past, like the blood at Snelgrove Lake or the hairs Henner Fahrenbach cataloged still uncontaminated to process with today's DNA technology. I think we'd have answers, instead we squandered the evidence. It's important today to test what we have but try to preserve some of it as well for testing in the future when technology has progressed even further. MIB

You You are probably right. I hope I did not step on any toes but impressions are impressions. If false impressions spread from pictures maybe the pictures should not have been released. LIke you say contamination is always a first reason to throw out DNA evidence. ;For heaven sakes don't publish pictures that suggest it. The only way to get science on board is dump a body on a lab table and have enough of the right people see and test it before it gets confiscated. Even that might not work if factors are at play that I suspect.

??? The hair is found where it was left. One cannot expect a sasquatch to hand the scientific mystery men a clump of hair from a golden comb that has been washed in alcohol. And this expectation of sterile "researchers" in the field is just more BS. As I posted just last month, I found a potential crime scene in the woods while searching for a list gun. I contacted the Alaska State Troopers and went to the site where a federal law enforcement officer met us. They started picking up bones and laying them out for a photo. No gloves, no washing their hands with alcohol, no surgical masks, no tools. These were potential murder victim bones. How about sone honesty here, folks: These mystery science Boss Hoggs simply won't allow any credible consideration that these creatures are out there.......alive or dead, today or yesteryear. You are kooks, plain and simple. These attitudes and platitudes from their ivy covered towers are as clear and undeniable as can be. Some openly proclaim them. If you bring in a skull, they will say it's a fraud or a diseased NBA players scull.

I have to believe most of the aggressive BiGFo0T encounters are due to emaciation, human encouragement on their territory (including protecting young), and there are probably just psychopath BiGfo0T too

It is clear that Ketchum made several critical mistakes. The first and most important mistake was any and all public comment before, during, and after her work, and the lack of excellent and aggressive legal lawyer/monsters throughout. If there is one monster who can tame academic/scientific mystery men, it is an aggressive lawyer. A small herd of them, and you might be able to prove that fairies can fly faster than the speed of light, because the mystery men would be as invisible as sasquatches for fear of raising their pointy heads above legal cover. If there is no carcass forthcoming, it will be because somebody is actively ensuring that it never surfaces, and that is likely because they, too, fear herds of lawyers.

At this point, we don't need answers. We need cooperation. What part of Krantz's, Sarmiento's, Meldrum's, Mionzcynski's, Bindernagel's, Napier's, et al dialogues convinced anyone of their legitimacy when presenting their arguments and evidence to this magical "scientific community"? Who are those guys, anyway? Got some names? If you do, I'll bet $10 to a single apple fritter that they wouldn't touch this subject with a 100' pole, and they won't be honest, either, when explaining why. So you can forget about "answers" until Norseman punches a half inch hole through one and drags it in for your magic men to pontificate about.

Actually she was a veterinarian who dabbled in pedigrees and breed selection process heritability of various animals commercially to boot. The scientific process and chain of methodology short-circuited everything besides manufactured data as far as I could tell; including manufacturing fake journals and pretending to buy them to simulate legitimacy. The scientist in question did not produce a final product instilling confidence in either the scientific method or the chief investigator.

Until a scientist with the stature of someone working at Max Planck Institute for. Evolutionary Anthropology dives into the fray, there will be no answers. Angel dna hybrids are not going to ice this cake. Bryan Sykes may have entered the fray but I am not sure that it was the best shot possible.

I dont how many of all, listen to coast to coast am. Mon 24 June, Dave Pailides was on said, the Ketchum DNA study prove that BF was A human Hybrid. This is reason all dna submit keeps coming back as "Not A Unknown Species" . But as tainted with Human DNA. HE goes on to state that BF is Not a ape, But a unknown Human Species possibly a relic Human Species. Late on in the Show a older man came ofn and told of his bigfoot Story from 1966. Where a 8 ft tall hairy human and him wound walking into a field together. He was picking apples and found himself face to face with it. He said he notice the hairy man looking at his apples so he sat down on a fallen log. Being taught not run from large animals. The BF sat down opposite, he placed apples on the log between them. The Creature grab them and ate. He says he was within 5 feet of him. And it looked human prutuding brow cover in hair at least 8 ft tall. Then he heard a noise turned and saw a pregnant female. Cover in hair looking more human the APE. What if what we are looking for is the wrong thing, a ape instead of a human type of Animal. This would explain the massive Intelligence of the Animal. Paulides did quotes some news article, thats points to them being a human like tribe. He states that " why isn't this evidence discussed in bigfoot forums and or Conventions. He believes we are dealing with relic humans not apes and if we looked deeper in the DNA and stop looking for something unknown... We would find our ansrews.

Heading out today for an overnight in an area that has produced in the past. Will retrieve (hopefully) the card from a trail cam there already and put up a 2nd trail cam. The weather forecast looks perfect. Will report back.

A few dollars from YouTube is not enough to pay rent. He's not a celebrity. It's a microscopic site with no coverage except what you are trying to do to discredit whatever the deal is there (that no one cares about). And if you are hoping Kulls does a follow up, watch his latest series of strangeness. His credibility is shot.

Franco, I understand what you are saying and somewhat agree. I do believe, though, that most of the general public knows nothing about the woo stuff except for association with aliens and then only because of the tabloids. Most just aren't interested enough to see Sasquatch as anything other than entertainment. Disregarding all the woo, in their minds, ALL the evidence can be hoaxed and knowers are mental, misidentifiers, and/or liars throwing out outlandish claims that they saw something that they are sure doesn't exist. So, they ridicule it. You are right that proving they exist would likely stop the ridicule.

It's not though, because most people outside of "this community" don't even have any idea that people suggest such things in seriousness. They take it as crazy because the idea of a giant hairy proto-human walking around in the woods that can consistently avoid our detection with an astonishing success rate is simply unfathomable to them, in the sense that they literally cannot imagine such a creature, or more precisely cannot imagine such skills of evasion coming from natural ability and intelligence alone. Add to that the goofy name "bigfoot", a couple exposed hoaxes, the general attitude of media coverage, and the absence of anything science can take to the bank in over 60 years, and there you have it. It has much more to do with the general idea held by most of Western civilization of man having completely conquered the world than it does with differing viewpoints within the community of proponents.

I think it's acceptance because they are easily led by whatever is put in front of them in a palatable form.

I read that a couple of years back that the Sasquatch Ontario guy, Mike Paterson, on his way to the Washington conference was turned away at the border because of past criminal convictions. That may be why he can't attend. The U.S. doesn't take kindly to those with criminal backgrounds entering.

For the skeptics and doubters, don't waste your time reading my entry because you won't believe it anyway...but here goes. I have been within 15-20 feet of these subjects and the emotional overload is extremely intense, which clouds your mind and any clear thinking. Everything you thought you could, would or might do becomes clouded in a blur of mixed feelings that are extremely difficult to sort out. There are other things going on I don't fully understand and have a hard time putting into words. It is experienced based and those that have been there know exactly what I am referring to! Some folks react by hyperventilating, feeling dizzy, sick to their stomach or even passing out. Others run with the fight-flight instinct kicking in. Until you have been there and done that, there is no way you can plan what you will do, that is based on my personal experiences. The powerful, dominating presence I felt was likened to standing under a high voltage electrical transmission line snapping and popping with power. As far as the subjects, they knew the land owner and were not the least bit threatening. I couldn't imagine what I would have done with charges and growls!! For those of you who read this and think this is a line of _ _ _ _, just consider it to be in the fantasy section of reading...but it really is no-strings attached truth regarding my experiences that I wanted to share..