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I was a voracious reader in the 60's. I got interested in cryptozoology. Then Roger Paterson presented his film in the Columbia theater in Longview WA. I was hooked. Then I read everything I could get my hands on about sasquatch. An experience on the east side of Mt St Helens when some large rocks were thrown at us out of the old growth forest kind of topped it off in the early 70's.

Bought a smittybuilt roof top tent. Could not find a Silverado bed rack anywhere so I had one built. Go to the cardiologist tomorrow. And then to Post Falls Idaho to 4 wheel drive parts to get the tent installed.... Driving down to New Mexico to see new grand baby and wanna spend some time in the Colorado Rockies along the way!

Keeping the stock mattress pad and adding optional extra pads gives a layer of isolation from the base plate. It might be easier to find several small memory foam mattresses that come with removable covers. Having a 'blue tarp' back up is essential. The annex? And your wife says..................? .Pop up shower / changing tents are handy and do not have a large footprint. Is that rear axle set up for dualies?

I dunno, I think you're basically spot on with everything you're saying in this thread and I wish I had more to add, but I feel compelled to try and participate anyway. The only slight questioning I have with regards to your most recent line of thinking re: international cooperation of governments is the difference in approach to the topic by some of these nations, e.g. China's quasi-official recognition of the species in the establishment of Shenonngjia or Malaysia's official protection of the Orang Pendek (although I can't find reference to this fact now..). Still, these could be seen as mild concessions or "soft disclosures" in the same way the whole AATIP thing blew over with the general public hardly batting an eye, or even noticing. As for academic science and scientists, most of them approach the topic with the same flawed assumptions and ignorance of the basic facts as the general public. This boils down to ideology, the view of man conquering nature, the supremacy of science as authority on truth. The scientists who have taken a bit closer look at it, like Sykes and Mohawk, I'd wager haven't really taken a closer look, haven't left the bias of their ideology at the door and stuck their nose into every nook and cranny of detail available then stepped back and looked at the whole enchilada from 10,000 feet. Having been on one side of that fence and then the other, before even going out and encountering these beings, I remember what the mindset is. Your mind races around analyzing every detail for possibilities that it could be anything but what it seems to be on its surface. Any possibility is more likely than the most obvious one. Your points about the situation in Bluff Creek in PG days are great. Were scientists already primed to think this way? Must be. Not a conspiracy, just negligence. We're mostly on the same page here too, but I guess I would like the world to know about them, if only for the seismic shift in ideology it would cause. I have a hunch that the sasquatch want that too, why else do they show themselves or establish relationships at all? The key is in the way that awareness is transferred, that it can't be just another "thing" that we can understand by manipulating it and watching it squirm, or the message in all of this will be lost. That's why they so adamantly hide and deprive us of anything that would represent the sort of "gift" scientists would like for us to bring them. Study is a form of dominance; they refuse to be studied. Anyway, if you feel you want to try to force the issue with the govt, check out what Chris Noel's been getting up to this summer:

It will be 5000x easier, but hopefully still very enjoyable. This caribou hunt last week really deflated my sails. It was more a spiritual journey than a hunt. I'm as reluctant to heed the message as it appears you are. We'll see. I'm pretty stubborn. I hope the Almighty forgives me and has mercy for my hard heart............ I hope you have a great trip, my Friend. You deserve it.

The yahoos told me they needed two hoops to make they tent mount up.... I gave them three. Nada. I came home with one end unsupported. Went back to fab shop and popped tent up and they welded another hoop to bolt other end on. Brought it home and set it up and wet it down per instructions. Suppose to “cure” seams and activate water proofing. We shall see. It’s not a wall tent. But sets up super easy.

I've had 2 sightings, clear and unambiguous, about 35 years apart, plus 1 more I'd rate 98% or more likely. Found one line of tracks in '74. Couple lakes with probably trackways underwater. Many (ish) individual or pairs of tracks. 3-4 knocks that were knocks, not acorns or the like falling. Couple odd vocalizations, some I've recorded. Makes me wonder how much I've missed noticing along the way. I haven't gotten out as much the past 3 years, first because of foot problems, then because of recovering from surgery for those problems, and now a new GF with a sizeable piece of property that needs labor I just happen to know how to do. I'm heading out this weekend for my first "real" trip of the year. More will happen in conjunction with deer and elk seasons though. I'm not done by any means. MIB

Welcome to the forum, Dr.! I hope you enjoy the ride!

Exack-a-dackly. I'm just looking for truth. I spent the night up there a week ago. It was quite spooky. I didn't get anything in the way of audio recordings, because it was raining pretty hard the whole time I was there. All I would have recorded would have been the sounds of rain. But I did hear some unusual sounds coming from the tree tops on several sides of my camp. It sounded like a loud stomach growling noise, from time to time. Makes ya go, "Hmm?" I still do not know what it was. Some people might think owl, but I have never heard an owl make that sound. Also heard twice a sound that almost sounded human from the woods there that sounded like someone saying, "Whah?" in a fairly low-pitched voice. No idea there, either.

Let's review: 1) October of 1967. The PG film is produced. It culminated 9 years of sasquatchy events in the Bluff Creek area that had garnered lots of media attention, but absolutely no official recognition. None. Zero. Nil. Nada. Zip. Not a single official statement about the entire affair, from Jerry Crew through Patterson/Gimlin. Not then, not since, and not now, despite several re-examinations of the film by interested and qualified individuals as recently as Munns over the last several years, all of whom determine that it is not a man in a suit. This is not to mention the D.W. Grieve analysis of 1972 where he openly states that he might have to refuse to accept the film as genuine because of his emotional inability to accept the possibility that these creatures exist. This is also despite the fact that a USFS timber cruiser supervisor and crew were the first on the scene after the filming in 1967 and is credited with photographs of the footprints left by the subject of the film. He has subsequently stated his doubt based, not on the evidence of the film and the prints, but on the surprise of Patterson and Gimlin coming from Washington and getting what locals had failed to get. 2) The environmental industry. Here's another curious entity who is strangely silent on this issue. These folks have found no creature too large or too smallto save, from blue whales to polar bears to marbled murrelets to snail darters to monarch butterflies. They are even party to and supporters of the federal protections for freaking sea gulls. And have they looked into this matter? Again, complete silence. Nothing. Zero. Nil. Nada. Zip. They are as quiet as government, their partner in the control of all things wild and free. Coincidence? The two most vociferous and power hungry entities on Earth and in the history of Mankind? These two get their dictates into everything, including the control of human behaviors down to how much water a urinal can be manufactured to use per flush. And when a potential great ape so endangered as to be seen so infrequently, or even perhaps a relict hominid population, is regularly seen or leaves trace evidence, yet they utter not a peep? Folks, I've gotta' admit, I'm a bit more than suspicious. Alarms are screaming at me like air raid sirens. I smell fire. But there's more.......: 3) There was a participant on this forum (version 1.0) some time back. His moniker was Saskeptic. Nice guy. He claimed to be an academic bird biologist. Remarkably, his participation here coincided with the Ivory billed woodpecker fiasco, where the feds spent some $50 million.......essentially giving much of that money to academia to "study" the situation (Cornell University, to be exact), which helps illustrate my accusations of whoring by academia. We got nothing for that money, btw. At any rate, this Saskeptic and I sparred back and forth over government's responsibility to respond to this sasquatch phenomenon just as they did to the woodpecker. Eventually, the guy started a thread outlining the symposium he created for government biologists warning them that people like me were out here wondering where they were, conducting discussion among them over how to respond, and suggesting to him that they ignore the threat, but be aware that it exists. This forum member eventually left the forum and became active at the JREF, or now ISF forum (getting away from the now disgraced name of James Randi) putting the bad mouth on "footers". Hmmmmm........... 4) Now comes a New Age youngster with a blog on how there's no sasquatch cover up conspiracy. This comes as we increasingly discuss the possibility and review the past. It also comes as government at the highest levels are being cornered in political shenanigans never before exposed. Trust in government at all levels is at an all time low, and deservedly so. And who does this young lady interview? Government wildlife and habitat managers? Of course not! They remain completely silent and even unidentified. She gives us yet another bowl of b******t from the academic a******s. The guys waiting for somebody to bring them The Gift. For free. "Give us something to publish about!", they "profess". Yeah. No conspiracy here. A conspiracy requires thought. There's no evidence of that in academia. And in government? There's no evidence of anything whatsoever.........except secrecy...........

And that statement illustrates the entire problem: 1) "Science" cannot and should not state that anything does or does not exist. As a method of learning, it's basic requirement is to study phenomenon. Sasquatchery exists. "Sasquatches" existed in the past ("Science" has already established that). The issue now is to explain sasquatchery. It is not only doing a horrible job of doing so, but as an industry and ideology, it is clearly guilty of extreme malpractice of the highest order. One simply has to look at the official (not academic) response to the publication of the PG film to see an example of that malpractice. 2) "Science" shouldn't even exist as an "entity". That may be a bit too deep for most to consider, so I'll simply say it in a way that a famous leader once did and leave it for another century of pain and misery to slowly realize; Beware the Science/Government complex. As Roger Knights (one of my favorite sasquatch commentators who has disappeared) once wrote; One cannot expect the citizen to collar the crook while the police eat donuts in their squad cars, especially when vigilantism is expressly prohibited and aggressively prosecuted. Sorry, I'm not going to passively allow somebody to blame me for failing to deliver a gift wrapped sasquatch to academia or the government while they aggressively insist that they don't exist, especially since I can fully expect to be criminally prosecuted for doing so while they proceed to ride into the ticker tape parade with the prize.

Precisely my position. This, more than anything else, is why I first contacted David Paulides to find out what he suspected but he wouldn't even offer that much. My concern is that the truth, whatever it is, is one of those things that "can't be" so our denial is interfering with proper preparation. Remember Arthur C Clarke's third law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"? I have a half notion that the same could be said as indistinguishable from interdimensional travel and as indistinguishable from demon activity, just depends on what you are conditioned to assume when confronted with technology so advanced you can't identify it as technology. All three may, for practical purposes, be one and the same in that we are horribly overmatched by something out there so far beyond us as to be all three. (That would be enough for gov't to hide from us if they have just enough evidence to know it is true but no way to protect us from it.) MIB

Thanks for sharing Madison. Selecting a ghillie suit is like tying a fly in fly fishing. You must "match the hatch". The video above is in tall grass. Where I am it is dense and coniferous. No doubt a ghillie suit can make you nearly invisible. One of these days I will make one. Until then I use the ASAT Vanish Leafy Suit which slips over your existing clothes. Note in the two turkey pictures below the suit on the right looks to have more green. It doesn't. There is no green in the suit at all. Just light tan, brown, and black. The suit is the same in all 4 pictures. The light tan reflects the colors it is near.

Trading whistles with two of "somethings" in the woods, and two nights later trading knocks with one "something" while picking up my kid at summer camp (he couldn't handle the overnight part and i got called to pick him up late in the night). Beautiful summer night. Much strangeness. Did a google search "What whistles in the woods at night" and got lots of Native American legends of "the Whistling Woman", female bigfoots. Repeatedly returned to the same area over the next few weeks and had more strangeness - huffs and chuffs at dusk, shaken bushes and trees, gifts that disappeared overnight, and chest slaps in the dark ad we were escorted out. Then the activity petered out (they must have been there seasonally), and winter came and I was hooked.

Growing up in Vancouver Washington back in the late 60's, early 70's, I remember hearing stories of sightings over in the Stevenson area. I was fascinated by the thought that a large, hairy, 2 legged primate could be living in the woods just a few short miles from me. I then remember seeing the Patterson Gimlin film at the Kiggins theater in Vancouver in the early 70's and being totally freaked out by the footage. At age 14 in 1978 me and 2 friends were fishing on the Washougal river and found large footprints embedded in moss. That sealed it for me...

Depends on what that means. I was exposed to the topic starting around 1970, then in '74 I found a track line and in '76 I had an extended sighting. Didn't really do anything with it, I just knew they were there. For context, we also still had wolves though officially they'd been exterminated, completely removed from the area, in the early 1900s, and despite biologists' protests, we had very rare grizzly sightings reported. So the idea of unaccepted animals being around was never a hurdle to get over. Had some weird stuff happen over the following years. Some of it was most probably bigfoot in hindsight. Left the area, went to college, got a job, never gave it any more thought, just knew they were there and went on about my business. Jump forward to about 2000-2005. I'd moved to a new town in '96, had family conflict which lead me to decide to explore a new area to hunt rather than returning to the ol' familiar family "haunts", and in the process I ran into some weirdness. Best bet was bigfoot. I contacted a researcher to ask some questions and thing snowballed from there. At that point I truly got interested. Funny thing is I never saw the PGF 'til probably 2012 or 2013. Patty is a dead ringer for the female counterpart for the big male I saw in 1976 and for the mom of the juvenile I saw in 2013, not identical, "merely" "biologically right." MIB