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Three parts to the answer all converging. First, I don't think there are as many as people assume, I think they travel farther, faster, and are seen more often, so there are fewer bigfoots accounting for the reports than people realize. Second, I do not think they are alone, I think even if you only see one, there are others "near enough" that they simply do not die alone. Third, I think they engage in deliberate ritual burial, and move the body as far as necessary for that to occur in a remote location seldom, if ever, visited by humans. Given their reported strength and ability to travel distance quickly when they choose to do so, I could see them relocating a body more than 100 miles if needed for secluded burial. It all points back to the almost unavoidable conclusion we are not dealing with a mere wild animal that decomposes where it falls, we're dealing with an alternate kind of person with intelligence, ritual, etc. I believe you have to find the burial locations and exhume one. I think there could be some risk involved in doing that. The next best situation would be some sort of natural disaster that could wipe out a group so there are no survivors to remove the bodies. Could well be that Mt St Helens provided that scenario. SWWASAS has suggested this in the past and I do not disagree. Actually, Joe Beelart suggest a variation of this in his first (fiction ... darn good fiction) book. Talented is not the same as infallible. And in the absence of a person who is both willing and instantly ready to pull a trigger, a sighting does not produce a body to recover. MIB

Muscle mass may be only part of the answer: "Our surplus motor neurons allow us to engage smaller portions of our muscles at any given time. We can engage just a few muscle fibers for delicate tasks like threading a needle, and progressively more for tasks that require more force. Conversely, since chimps have fewer motor neurons, each neuron triggers a higher number of muscle fibers. So using a muscle becomes more of an all-or-nothing proposition for chimps. As a result, chimps often end up using more muscle than they need. " This also may explain their lack of tools beyond sticks and stones.

Even though I'm by nature a skeptic I would like to believe Bigfoot to be real. I've read and seen the breakdowns of the PGF and to be totally honest I just can't explain the film away as so many skeptics appear to be able to do. The animal looks real to me, acts realistically to me and Bill Munn's book is very persuasive too. However, I have a problem with some other evidence put forward, most notably the anecdotal - if the creature is really in peoples back yards and throwing rocks at cabins and we don't have good pictures or video or a body then that doesn't tally to me, it makes the alleged sightings less convincing. If there really is an 8ft tall 600lbs ape in the woods who makes itself known apparently quite frequently, acts aggressively by throwing rocks, communicates with people by gifting etc. I can't fathom how one hasn't been felled by now. So my question is - assuming in this instance that the animal is extant - what are the reasons behind the absence of a bigfoot corpse? Are all the 'hunters' incompetent? They seem to be quite able to kill bears, moose and so on almost as a matter of course. Are the animals so rare as to be practically impossible to find? If so, what about the reports of them throwing rocks at cabins, being spotted near housing etc.which seem to contradict this? Are there simply too few people attempting to bag a body? Have there been any other larger scale attempts other than the NAWAC one? Are the efforts all part time by amateurs that fall short for lack of resources? Ultimately, what is the best scenario to try and take a body?

Not all hunters are incompetent, but I would venture to guess that most are, and the percentage of incompetent hunters has increased with social urbanization. Moreover, hunters aren't hunting for sasquatches, and they are fairly well versed with hunting laws and regs, which literally didn't exist a century ago. While hunters seem quite able to kill bears and moose in Alaska, you might be surprised to learn that the overall success rate in Alaska for moose is @ 20%, and that is for nearly 100,000 hunters hunting 200,000 moose, the success rate in most game management units is much lower (under 10% is common), and the success rate for bears (especially brown or grizzly bears) is significantly lower than that. I believe they are extremely rare. For example, there are only an estimated 45,000 brown/grizzly bears in all of North America, Canada and Alaska included. Of these, 75% of them are in Alaska, and of the Alaskan bears, the vast majority are concentrated in Game Management Units 3, 4, 5, 8, and 9. If there are only an estimated 5,000 sasquatches on the continent, that's less than 10% of the grizzly population, and also extremely localized in remote habitat featuring great cover and concealment. Conversely, there are human habitations and structures literally everywhere, including in the middle of classified wilderness lands and parks. Many are often uninhabited, which encourages wild animals of all kinds to become emboldened to hang out in the area only to bevome invaded when the humans show up. This is a common theme with all kinds of animals. No doubt about it. As an example, I'm an experienced, accomplished, and frequent Alaskan big game hunter, I'm a strong believer in the existence of sasquatches, and not only do I not hunt for them, I have come to the reasoned conclusion that the only way I would shoot one is in self defense. Of all the people on this forum, there are just a few who regularly state that they are pro kill and they regularly go out looking for sasquatches. I believe so, especially in the 1970's. Has NAWAC professed a pro kill position and mounted hunting expeditions to that end? Probably, along with a lack of experience, know how, time, access, and sasquatches to shoot. Good question. Everybody on this forum who is pro kill has proposed a number of scenarios. I'm confident that quite a few factors are important: * Fresh reports in the area would be ideal * A history of sightings in that area are important * Funding, which isn't cheap; even a relatively local week long caribou hunt for me will cost a few hundred dollars just in fuel, communications subscriptions, spare parts, etc. That doesn't include food (I eat anyway at home) or license and tag (a sasquatch hunt might require some sort of license and tag, however, to legally justify the carry of firearms in the woods, depending on the politics of the area, but in Alaska, I already have a lifetime license), and I'm already all geared up * The proper tactic is critical; baiting? Calling? Spot and stalk? Stalking upwind along a noisy creek like Patterson & Gimlin? * Spending plenty of time on location........like weeks * Complete access to the area, both legally and tactically * A good plan for carcass preservation and extraction, including out of the woods as well as to a final destination, which would include a plan for interstate/international smuggling, all of which is illegal on the federal/international level (CITES) * A good legal defense plan and funding in the possible event of criminal prosecution

This is a really interesting thought and one which I'd not seen proposed until now. It would explain the number of reports of people having limited interactions before they peter out and never start back up again. Assuming the interactions are real (and the creatures of course!) the trouble is nobody knows what all the wood knocking, whooping etc. all mean so maybe by doing certain things researchers are actively driving them away maybe without realising it?

Ticks are common here, especially in tall grass and bushes. I am a bit paranoid about them. My father picked one up 10-15 years back in Curry County (SW corner of Oregon for those not familiar with the state) and was diagnosed with Lyme disease not long after. He still has residual arthritic symptoms but didn't get it real real bad. Not to be messed with. My GF has a hay field and some acres of wooded grassland. I've gotten a couple working around her place. Our spring theme song is "ticks" by Brad Paisley. The coast range has some mosquitoes in pockets but generally not bad. The Cascades in my area ... Crater Lake and south ... are a mosquito-infested nightmare during the month or so following snow melt-off when the little b*st*rds are hatching in the mud at the end of melting drifts and in the remaining tarns and small marshes. I truly don't know how the PCT thru-hikers survive but I think I know why they hike so fast. There have been a few cases of mosquito-borne disease transmission here, not like the tropics, but non-zero. I generally wear a flannel shirt treated with permethrin, a bug bucket, mesh mittens, and a mesh jacket with a hood pulled up over the bug bucket to keep them away from my ears when I hike the Cascades from roughly early June to mid August depending on the year. MIB

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Not really high end gear, but something that I am going to try. I have my ham radio license and I have a very high end kenwood handheld radio (TH-D74A) that has built in APRS. APRS is a system that uses a gps and a packet of data sent over a ham radio frequency that lets others track your position. I don't want to risk losing my expensive kenwood in a vehicle break in, so here is what I am going to try. I have a cheap baofeng handheld radio, with a magnetic vehicle mount antennae I just purchased a cable to connect it to an old android phone with a built in gps. I have downloaded APRSdroid onto the radio, and this will control when the radio send out the packet information. The phone is old and has no sim card in it, it is just used for the app and gps. Anyone can go onto the website aprs.fi and look up my position on a map as long as they know my call sign. I am really interested in seeing how this works

Good Evening. My name is Christopher and I am a HUGE Bigfoot fan. I have followed the PG film since I was a child. Have always wanted to go up to the area and finally did last week. Drove all the way up Highway 96(I have attached photo). Would love to go to the actual site one day. Great to be here! -Chris https://imgur.com/5WTyFN0

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