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We do have that capability. Not only that, but each researcher can make their section "invitation only", so they decide who has access. No, we're asking them to help pay for the server and software. It's only $20/year!

Well Joe Beelart of this forum, wrote a book about some of that area, Oregon's Bigfoot Highway. Reading that goes a long way to understanding the density and history of sightings up to the current day, with great maps and everything. He goes out and has partnered with Cliff Barackman on some expeditions commercially. He also will take out friends into the forest.

^^^^^ pawn sacrifice with a NDA. Have you considered having your own You tube channel?

When my fiancee was approached by the non-scripted television production company, she was told that several networks were hungry for cryptid focused shows, but that there were not many people who were involved with the field that the production company found viable for television. We don't have recognizable names in the field, but we spend a great deal of time (as well as a fair amount of money) on it and take our research seriously. She was interested in doing something with them, as long as she felt that the show was furthering or adding something to the field, as well as not making her a potential laughingstock. Basically, she was interested in something more serious, not to be a female version of Mountain Monsters. Their initial idea was to have the show develop organically (their words) around her efforts into researching the phenomena. However, the contracts that were required to even do a pilot to shop to networks were a bit concerning. You have to really be interested in being on television more than being interested in using it as a possible vessel for research. The language used in the contract is purposely set up to be rather vague in its conditions. You basically have to be willing to potentially go anywhere and possibly do anything that the production company or network requires. Then, you have no clue how the footage that they film will be edited. You could set out to make a serious show on the exploration of unknown phenomena only to have it he edited into being a show devoted to fools who look for imaginary monsters. You need a real desire for fame in order to be willing to take a risk on signing your name on that dotted line. So I can definitely see were they have trouble finding people that they want to do it that are also willing to do it. That's how you end up with the bottom of that barrel.

If I was a researcher, the only reason I might have to maintain situational awareness on the public would be to know if they were about to screw up the area I was active in.

Like NathanFooter we used to have some Olympic Project people but they got tired of dealing with scoftics and left. From the outside, they seem to have turned a corner and are more of an expedition service than research outfit. Like the BFRO I have not had positive experiences dealing with them. Many of these supposed research groups are more like bigfoot fraternities than research organizations. I don't relate to fraternities very well.

We do research in the Upstate South Carolina/Western North Carolina/Smokeys region. The only other places online that I have tried to interact with other enthusiasts have been on Facebook groups. That went over about as well as can be expected, and I learned to not put too much out there. Healthy skeptism is good, however I am not trying to prove or sell anyone anything so I don't want to spend all of my time dealing with hostile comments. There is a segment of the population who live to try to prove that people like us are crazy or flat out snake oil salesmen. I will say that I have been perusing the old BFF 1.0 posts that I gained access to with my premium membership, and the forum did seem much more hostile and combative back in the day. I can see where people were ran off. I will say that trying to attract 'professional' researchers could be a double edged sword. So many people who devote a large amount of time to the subject and maintain a web presence use that time and presence to non-stop attack other people in the field. I know that this area of interest attracts tends to attract some less than honest people who are just looking for attention, but some of these researchers have no actual research on their sites...just page after page of who has managed to offend their sensibilities now.

Many of the real researchers here do not post much. We had some that were driven out of the forum by the hard core skeptics I don't know if others look around at times just to see what is going on. If they don't, seems like they have a self imposed isolation going on. Now and then we get Madison/Northwind types that keep things interesting with real field work. When major events happen to most researchers no more than once a decade, it is nice to hear about others having success in the dry spells,.

I think the researcher section and the SSR is a step in the right direction.

And, in fact, the public poses a threat. Let the news out that you're seeing sasquatches in a particular area, and watch the circus come to town. This is why wise people keep their hunting and fishing locations secret.

I worked in television and film production for a decade. Unless it's NatGeo, it's ALL about entertainment and bringing in viewer numbers and advertising dollars. It could never be about real research, because mostly, imho, really looking for evidence is boring, uncomfortable and as exciting as watching paint dry for 55 minutes of every hour and 4 minutes of really cool stuff and 1 minute of wondering if today is the day you're going to die. Not very watchable television, that! Studios don't give a darn about exploration or finding a new species. People at the top don't go outside, lol! They work 12-18 hours a day and eat, sleep and live by numbers. I know. I worked for them. My former boss is now President of a major Studio. Any show they create MUST be monetarily successful, and the uncertainties of bigfooting would be unproductive, literally.. Anyone starring on a show is an actor first, and a researcher second ( or third, or fourth...). Any Bigfoot show you watch is, first and foremost, ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing more, nothing less.

The biggest reason I mention it is while watching them move I've seen them sweep each other more than a couple of times. If they were filming with live rounds I imagine they wouldn't do things like that .

I haven't reviewed those, they sound outdated. Changing them is not a problem. I disagree, the BFF does facilitate research. We could do better though and I'm open to it.

The major advantage Moneymaker had with The Animal Planet (as well as everybody else in this industry) is the BFRO as the #1 report taking organization. That gave him the lead with producers not only on his competition, but in deciding locations. But a researcher, even one thinking of starting a YouTube channel, doesn't need control of that database. Our own SSR gives one a query access to the published BFRO database, and a whole lot more, for a mere $20 per year. You might not get the Big Bucks with a YouTube channel, but money can be made, and you'd have FULL control. You could work your own schedule, follow up on a recent report, talk to a witness on video, have a Bobo friend of your very own, etc.

I think that you need to up your fee to cover supplies as in extra large capacity Depends for the hunters.

No, No, No, BRB. The beard needs to be halfway down your chest! THAT'S what I mean by credibility C'mon man, it is TV after all. Everyone knows no one is going out there from Wall Street LOL. So, grow the beard for year, then stop bathing for a year and you'll end up with a 12" shrub and you'll be just ripe.......I mean right,.....yeah, that's it....for the part.

Lol. That's me in my avatar. I got the beard covered, my man! Now I just need a few less teeth and an aversion to personal hygiene to top it off.

Are you forgetting about the beard? It would lend a certain backwoods credibility to your image

LOL........if they paid me $25k or $30k for some adventure, I'd give them some. Guided grizzly hunts can be had for less than that. I can get them charged by a coastal brownie for a fraction of that.

Hmmm. You learn something new every day. From This article. "I figured out why that was the case after a talk I had with a doctor friend. It seems that most doctors are packing around a certain knowledge that has long avoided many Old West historians. There is a human physical abnormality known as Buffalo Chest, or Buffalo Lung. People suffering from Buffalo Lung have not two, but a single lung cavity. Wouldn’t you know it? The condition is named after the American bison, one of the few mammals that have this anatomical peculiarity. Humans, with our double-lung cavities, may suffer the puncturing or collapse of one lung, and perhaps still get enough oxygen to survive until something can be done about the injury. Poke a hole in a buffalo’s lungs through either side of its ribs, and its entire lung system deflates like a single balloon. A lung-shot buffalo might keep on running for a ways, but it isn’t going to survive the trauma." Buffalo apparently have a single lung cavity, as opposed to two. This makes them even more susceptible to lung shots.

Well as I sit here running the local golf course a mile from home, I am reminded that what happened to me was really no accident. I live right on a very active deer trail, funnel down area. Coyotes are always near and numerous. Lately a new neighbor has purchased goats and a Turkey, but I am guessing the Turkey is pretty well accounted for. It is hard for me to think of what was really happening from 2013-2016 but I fail to explain of it any other way. The recordings that I made convince me something was going on out of the usual, and my wife and I consistently heard tree knocking in the early dawns during a certain period of summer, for three years straight! It was literally like clock work. I had attempted to determine the source and I know that no humans were awake or present. It was just so odd to not get at least a glimpse of whatever was responsible. The vocalization only happened twice, or perhaps another time that I did capture, but it was so distorted by the cold air it was not clear enough to distinguish. It seemed like no matter what I attempted the source was always one step ahead of me, like it could anticipate my next move. I tried stealth and non-stealth, but to catch a simple glimpse of the source of the unusual activity was not to be. That can leave a person very frustrated. Now I am beyond the point of having to know what it was, I accept I may never have any proof of it being what it seemed to be. At times it almost seemed like poltergeist activity, like what could make these sounds and be so stealthy as to never be seen, or leave prints. Drives you nuts.,,,

I wouldn't call this forum the general public. You need a specific interest in BF to be here.

Although OLYMPIC PROJECT put a hiatus on expeditions it was stated that was due to research emphasis and not a total abandonment of that process. They did more group projects as a force multiplier once they had some success with possibilities like the nests. I would in no way compare the arrogance of the old BFRO with the OP. Quality people have left BFRO over the years en masse. This is not the case with OP as far as I have followed them. At least the Co-Founder of OP has a daytime job unlike the BFRO King. Sure it is a status symbol to collect professors and scientists to your team, sort of like real life science and academia in that respect. I will say that some researchers hedge their bets and have their toes embedded in multiple research efforts/groups. You know I just listened to the latest podcast from Area X and they are regurgitating the same stuff they poked others on BFF 1.o over, like,--wait for it, "faux speech" -- translation: vocalization/verbalizations that sound human, despite continuing to call things gorillas and apes when viewed from satellite imagery from Google Earth no less. It sort of pained me to listen to the former owner of the BFF backsliding and describing things that others were castigated over in a previous life. Full circle baby, full circle. Hope the formula for a quality show learns some humility from previous failures in the field which pretty much describes status to date.

I hope you are not equating "famous" to "top 10". I'm very happy to get out and have consistent activity with my small core group of friends. I don't need ANY famous people to help...

Other than the Olympic Project, NAWAC, and the BFRO; who would be considered the top ten research groups? I don't think that NABS is very active anymore. I have zero interest in joining one of these groups either. I either do not align with their stated goals or I don't want to pay hundreds of dollars to go glamping and wander around the woods with twenty other people. NAWAC and the Olympic Project do good work, but I am not geographically situated to be involved with them.

The SSR alone is a goldmine, thanks to a lot of work by people like yourself. For a researcher, that alone is worth well over $20 per year. The online version of the Anchorage Daily News costs $10 per month, and I can get state and local news from numerous other sites for free. There isn't another SSR anywhere.

Realistically, I don't think we do. Look at it from their perspective instead of yours: we don't have anything to offer that they value. MIB

But most if not all have either ended up on someone's dinner plate, stuffed and mounted, stuck on a pin, or placed into a zoo. And now, apparently, Nessie doesn't exist, is Bigfoot next? Is suspected Human contamination of DNA samples showing us more than we care to admit? Let's face it folks, we are stuck in this mystery and unless people get serious enough to confront the issue on levels outside the woods then we will be tuck from now on. But there is a way out of it. I'm going to suggest to Madison and Northwind to work on an approach in their research area to see if thy can find someone to take some e-DNA samples from their area. It would seem that there is enough evidence to support the endeavor. I read an article where there are methods of even getting DNA from track in snow to study winter migrations. Surely the footprints they have encountered are in substrates that would yield DNA. And since the footprint activity has been fairly consistent in their research area then chances might be good for nailing down the answer. Just a suggestion

Every living creature living that walked on this planet, since time immortal, has learned to avoid humans. They've seen that if you screw with a human many more will come for you with their spears and arrows. They may have had the upper hand with a single human or two but they'd be toast against a village of angry humans seeking revenge.

Feral kids have metal boomerangs, don't they?

That's what the people I know who have been on all of those reality shows tell me. Even the Trooper show has an element of that; the Troopers won't bring the filming crew on expected dangerous calls. Once in Wasilla Mrs. Huntster and I had stopped ay Dairy Queen and got Blizzards (with coupons, of course). It was fairly dark out, but the highway lights illuminated the area. I pulled over to a different parking lot which had a better view of Wasilla Lake. A Trooper vehicle was idling with his lights on in the parking lot to the lakeside park a couple hundred yards off, and he had a vehicle in front of him. Suddenly I noticed a guy sneaking up the passenger side of the patrol car from behind, and he had something in his hands. I got out of my car, started running down the hill, and was screaming at the guy. Turned out to be a cameraman filming a scene for the AST reality show.

I would drive Bob around on my dime just so we could talk Mules!

Central Oregon is anything from the Cascade Crest east to where service starts to come from US 395 rather than US 97. There is an epic amount of forest on the east slope of the Cascades extending out to the edge of the basin and range sage country. The east slope of the Cascades has a huge number of bigfoot reports. Head of the Metolius River, for instance. There are also quite a few from the Ochoco Mountains NE of Prineville and around Paulina and East Lakes SE from Bend. Lot down towards Klamath Falls / Sprague River area, too. Funny thing .. there are some reports from out in the sage. They mostly come from areas around stock watering areas. I wonder if human activity, adding stock watering troughs in the desert which are filled from deep wells via propane pumps and wildmills, have created "islands" by which bigfoots can now leap-frog across what was previously uncrossable desert. I have lots of ideas ... but no certain knowledge. I'd guess either head of the Metolius, Camp Sherman, Tam McArthur Rim, or a little south around Century Drive / Mt Bachelor. I vaguely know Russ. Russ often transports Bob Gimlin to events. There was another bigfoot notable who did that until somewhat recently. That guy .. I won't name names .. seemed to be milking the relationship for every $$ he could. Russ **appears** to be treating Bob more respectfully, less as a resource to be leveraged for cash. I can change my mind if things prove otherwise down the road, but for now, I think Russ is ok. MIB

I'd bet that means the PGF.

Yeah, what if we did? Realistically .. not happening. Go back to the BFF bylaws. This site is here to promote TALK, not facilitate research. They are researchers, not talkers. As long as BFF is BFF, we're not relevant to doing research, we just TALK about it. MIB