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Our former Director of the BFF is LEO in Georgia and two of our mods are also LEO. Our Steering Committee Chair Woman works for the Forest Service. @hiflier all they have to do is read the BFF to keep an eye on you.

I wear an action cam on my chest rig, as well as having a Flir and night vision camera strapped to my pack. You can tell at a glance that I ain't just hiking. He asked what I was planning on doing with the cameras. I told him that I shoot hiking and nature videos for YouTube. When I asked him what the problem was, he grumbled about not getting lost off trail and walked off. I chalked it up to someone who didn't want to be at work that day. I don't ever mention Bigfoot or any anomalous activity to any ranger or warden during my brief and infrequent interactions with them. That being said, my partner is good friends with a former cop who hosts a police and military themed talk show on a local radio station. He wants her to come on the show one day and take calls from police concerning strange calls and encounters that they have experienced. He says that every cop has got at least one weird story to tell. You just need to get them to open up. He wanted to have her on over Halloween (naturally), but we couldn't get our schedules coordinated. According to him, a lot of the cops in this area are believers, if they have not had actual experiences themselves. I guess like anyone else, police officers run the risk of ridicule and censure if they talk about strange things that they have seen or heard. I hope that we are able to eventually do the show. What a source of reports and even leads that we might never normally hear about.

WOW! you rarely start a thread. Your intelligent comments on the BFF are always good to see though. I'll wade right in here. I have done quite a bit of hard digging in the last year especially- both academically as well as agencies. I always have wondered in those pursuits if I would ever attract a visit or a phone call or any other sign of "someone" being interested in my activities. I have to say, there has been nothing to report on that front. It does make me wonder how hard I could push before anything would happen. Something tells me I could push pretty hard and still nothing would happen. There is an official truth about Bigfoot. So far I'm encourage that finding out that truth isn't fraught with danger. At least for the level of out-reach I have been involved in so far. I would push harder but I don't quite know how to or what that would even mean or entail.

There is no doubt about that as documentation has been par for the course from the outset. But on the subject of an aerial map my understanding is that the canopy over the area is so dense that even a small drone would have a hard time being navigated underneath it. In fact, the dialogue all along has been how strategic this location would be both as defense and as having built in advanced warning because of the density of the understory. Just getting through the thick wall of the huckleberries would alert anyone or anything on the finger ridge of an approach. It's a perfect location as far as security goes if one counts the time-consuming difficulty that Humans have just getting in there.

We had the same thing happen on a expedition in Wisconsin with the BFRO... we had the same thing happen on a expedition in wisconsin with the BFRO.... we did hear a Howl...but to far away to tell if it was truley a BF. But they swore up and down it was. We did have a good time and met some great people.

Doesn't fit, doesn't "work" for the size of the "guy" I saw. They should be close to us but I think that is too close for there to have been enough time. I don't think we have any potential answers that aren't incredibly speculative at this point, so much so that nobody should be investing much ego in any specific explanation. Instead, we should focus on refining the questions since we don't yet have answers or a way to choose among the potential answers. .. but that's just my view. MIB

It doesn't, for me. I know most people don't believe, or care. Even my own family, friends and coworkers mostly don't believe or care, even though they politely scroll past my stuff that I post on my personal Facebook page. Very occasionally, someone will react negatively and I shrug it off. I do this for myself and no one else. There's that. It's definitely crossed my mind lately. Too late now, I'd say. But if it were true, i would imagine a lot more operations happening in Oregon, and I just haven't heard that thru the grapevine. Public bias is so strong against the existence of bigfoot, i don't think they have to try too hard. However, i do hope they handle problematic, aggressive bigfoots OTOH.

Agreed but there is something to be learned here nonetheless. If Fred Beck et al were telling the truth then there would be something pertinent to today. The First Nation peoples spoke often of BF aggression. The aggression at Ape Canyon supposedly stemmed from one of the miners shooting a BF. I look at this as a kind of at a cusp where BF's were still engaging people whereas today they seem to be more in avoidance. So why the difference? The obvious answer is guns. It makes me wonder how BF's would be acting today if guns weren't so ubiquitous. If that were the case we might be experiencing a completely different scenario when we go camping or hiking or start new developments on the fringes of their territory. There was a BFRO member here a few years back who spoke of a BF doing a bluff charge at night when some children, who had gotten frightened, were being led from the area where the expedition was being held. Makes me wonder.

Me either

Thats an interesting video, I had not see that before. The nests are more impressive than the pictures lead me to believe. I'm surprised no ones been talking about this around here......./s

Survivalists and mountain men are very different than feral humans, IMO. Maybe my definition is wrong though?

What part of the story could not have been perpetrated by flesh and blood ape men? That’s my point. What Fred Beck thought they were or where they came from? Is neither here nor there. Lots of people and cultures ascribe supernatural titles to things they do not understand. It’s normal but incorrect.

Well that ain't fair!!

I started to reveal a bit about myself and my career but I ended up deleting it all. I will just say, it is not smart to reveal to others, in corporate America, that you have seen anything "strange" (BF, ghosts, UFOs) to anyone you work with that hasn't had the same, "hrm" experience. I'm sure the same goes for local/state police forces.

So because he talks about BF rock throwing, you conclude that is all he is correct about and everything else Beck says must be "incorrect." If you cherry pick every time a researcher explains an event in both physical and metaphysical terms, that adds bias to your own conjecture ( "an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information") . At least 1 article posted by Redbone and/or Daniel, says Beck was doing his research with "spiritualists." That's a 19th-early 20th century term for new ager. My guess is Beck stayed a spiritualist beyond the initial encounter because he added a chapter some 40 odd years later that is metaphysical in tone. That does no mean he was incorrect about his memory of events. It means he was looking at things through that viewpoint. Today we would call it the paranormal view Whatever it is, he's just inconclusive and leaves unknowns that conjecture does not resolve.