Leaderboard

Want to see what I've accomplished sitting in my armchair? I long for your approval so that I can go back to being critical of others. Here is the result of YEARS of effort, classifying encounters into the SSR database. Notice that big open spot in Oregon? As of today there are 7190 classified reports in our database, and most (outside of Washington) were entered by me. Along with that, I've been putting John Green reports on this site since they no longer had a public web location. I did this while adding them to SSR. Feel free to read through the 1000 plus John Green reports that I've placed here, while sitting in my armchair. (Follow this link to see them all) Of course sometimes I need a break from all that time in the armchair, providing nothing, so I get out from time to time. Here is one of my encounters - 2018 Here is another: Oh, and then there is all that audio I've collected. Now if it's ok with you, I can get back to pointing out some of the problems I see with this tv program. I have already admitted its not all bad. I actually like Dr. Mayor and Russell Acord. Those are the kind of people I'd like to hang in the woods with. I'd just prefer to do it without fake drama and lies about how far they have to walk. Edit to add: If they need help trying to figure out how tall the eyes were, I made tool for that.

To Redbone: There's no need for you to justify your contributions. Your work stands on its own merit. You, sir, are a BFF rockstar.

Took advantage of the 70 degree weather to head into one of our research areas this past weekend with @Hellbent No activity, but we were able to scout a bit deeper into the area and found a great spot to set up a basecamp. Lots of rain lately so the river was HIGH...

But this is the EXACT problem Redbone is addressing.... Working together towards a common goal requires meticulous note taking including coordinates! Knowingly lying about locations to foul other researchers IS the problem. I have followed up on one BFRO report in Montana. Nothing was were they said it was. Making it impossible to find. Science requires testable and repeatable results! As a community we SHOULD be working together. But that does NOT mean we should be praising charlatans who produce phony data because they wanna look cool or sell reality TV shows. If I tell you that I’m somewhere you can dang well bet the farm that’s where I am. And you can drive there yourself and check it out.

Redbone has done a herculean effort with the SSR which benefits all of us. He also has outstanding sound-recording analysis skills. All of us collectively benefit from his dedicated efforts. The simple truth is we all chip in whatever efforts we can whether they are in the field, data analysis, or a cold review of work done by others which provide a fresh look or new approach to things. Moreover, we may contribute different skills at different times based on our circumstances at the time. I think our group should be proud of all the efforts here. Look how we all coalesced around the troubling situation on Southeast Oklahoma and genuinely tried to extend our hands to help. I'm proud to know all of you here and can say, without hesitation, there are so many wonderfully helpful and knowledgeable folks at BFF.

@Redbone I know that I am a newbie here, but on behalf of the community....thanks for all of your work on the SSR. I find it extremely useful and I am sure that others here do as well. That's a monumental task that I am sure sometimes seems thankless. So...thank you! Btw, I am going to use your height stick idea.

I should be sleeping... In episode 2, Dr. Mayor had a "real" map at base camp and pointed to her location. THAT is Rock Creek Lake, and her finger is at the spot I said was base camp. She don't lie like the producers do. A few seconds later, Russell pointed out the "smell location" on the same map, obviously west of base camp, at 44.476300, -119.896120. And, a few seconds later, Dr. Mayor pointed to the spot where the game trails were. That is the lake at 44.424100, -119.809330, as shown in the LIDAR image. That "6 mile hike" was actually less than a mile.

AM I certain? Absolutely... and this area is not remote at all. They just want us to think they are out in the "130 square mile" wilderness. Here is the post that really proves it. (link) 6 and 8 mile trips are lies... There are no two points more than 4 miles apart. I suppose step for step on a trail could add distance, but all of these spots can be driven to. I don't know the exact location of every incident, but of the sights we know, none are more than 4 miles apart as the crow flies. I do suspect some of the sites were on the ridge south (not north as mentioned) of basecamp and Rock Creek Lake. That south ridge appears to be unaffected by logging, so it is primo territory. I'm certainly not saying there are no sasquatch there. As I examine terrain, I think it's very possible, but as a keeper of the SSR database, I have to think whatever algorithm gave them this spot is also a lie. No Public BF data supports this area at all. Maybe the algorithm highlighted available filming dates on land they had permission to be on. Every time they said East, they likely meant West. If they said North, they likely meant South. The "bigfoot highway" trails shown in LIDAR are old logging roads that are mapped. The fold out map that Russell pointed to was spot on. The map on the wall that Bryce marked up is inaccurate. I looked and could not find that area on the maps anywhere around. Detail that is normally available on topo maps was all scrubbed. We saw enough that we should have been able to read the name of a creek or a mountain. The coordinates on Bryce's notebook are a lie. I believe they expected that nobody could figure out the real location, but we did. Joe Public doesn't care if they exaggerate. The producers care about entertainment, not truth. They wanted the narrative to be that they were in a much larger area than they really were. This goes right along with the "manufactured drama" that they also gave us. It's not all bad though. They had some good ideas. Maybe our next trick should be to find the cabin Bryce was in. I'll bet it's not really 39 miles away.

Hopefully it takes just one death to solve the mystery. But I like how you think. Body parts are easier to transport and are proof beyond a shadow of a doubt. The key is figuring out their patterns. I do not wood knock, whoop or any of that stuff. I have no idea what I am saying, nor does anyone else. The only sure fire message I can send is by varmint calling. Ringing the dinner bell. The sound of a dying rabbit or bleating fawn is a universally recognized predator/prey relationship. So I have been concentrating on that when I go out.

Remember me talking about these Keller snow tracks? The photo was taking by Larry Battson. http://www.bigfootencounters.com/sbs/keller-WA09.htm I just found this video. It appears he is giving a lecture at the USFW museum...

I can think of easier, cheaper and probably more painless ways of suicide if that were a goal (it's not).

Hello from the swamps of N.Florida. Love to read all things Bigfoot. Thanks for having me.

We were hiking in short sleeves. We haven't really gotten a winter here at all so far... Lol. Remember when I posted about being contacted about doing a non-scripted cryptozoology show? It certainly wasn't because of my ugly mug....

Let's not forget that this: Not this: Is the actual terrain involved. While there are some rock outcroppings none of them would fit my idea of cliffs. The slope is fairly steep with some talus in places at the bottom but nothing requiring rappelling or that an individual in decent shape couldn't ascend without gear as Dr. Mayor does in her hike to the location of the of the return call to her call blasting. Also, while there are certainly plenty of forested areas, very few are as dense as depicted in the doctored image from the show. I did home on the area by searching for "Tate Springs" on the topo map Redbone posted; great work that, sir!

Lol. Great answer. I have enjoyed this thread and all the great answers. No need for me to answer. The mystery is solved. Definitely Ninja.

Here is the owner talking about it.

I would never move in to someone’s research area knowingly. That’s just dangerous. I try and stay far away from people. I suppose that’s not all pro kill people unfortunately.

I think the algorithm could possibly be east/west connecting montane sylvan environments between the Coast Range and the Blues on a crossing path avoiding urban areas, coast and away from the Columbia River crossings where there is minimal development that could include water, campgrounds and logging roads. Added elevations above valley floors may be involved for lookout purposes too. If there are ungulates herds in those valleys that would just be icing on the cake. I would imagine the cabin Bryce was in could be a campground state rental or VRBO somewhere in the environs, meaning within six to ten miles. If you check your mapping of the SSR there is a hinged top of the door line of dots heading across that area running southwest to northeast toward the Blues. Great investigative work and map sleuthing. Agreed, I believe the obfuscation efforts come from some belief an area will be overrun by pro-kill gunners and gawkers once identified however. I don't quite understand how that area would need that level of smoke-screening but there may be some reason. Remember even the Michigan Project couldn't keep their area secret. Not many neighbors seemingly to disturb in that area besides mother nature and campers it seems.

Hard to say I really haven't dived deep in researching the rifle using AR 15 parts but they are a good company and they have some good RD ..so ?? If I owned one I would be able to give a better opinion on it because I would put it through the test with a high round count .

Well....that was entertaining.

Nothing to do with the show, but that would be amazing.

Keep in mind, my own criticism is based on 1 1/2 episodes. Looking for hair in a nest was a cool idea. It seems better as it goes along, but I'll always be bothered by the stupid background music. So here is some manufactured drama I spoke of. Russell had to rappel down a cliff to save time... or somebody could've driven a jeep to within 100 yards of where he was. Every distance they mention about their positions is greatly exaggerated. Russell's '3 day climb' was west of the base camp (44.437298, -119.814284) , not east, and there are logging roads going up there. That whole graphic that shows the ridge east of base camp is BS. At minimum, it is flipped left to right, but it also doesn't indicate accurate N-S lines. It's tilted. That's probably all done so that nerds like us can't figure it out. I guess they underestimated us. Russell on the ridge is at about 44.438740, -119.866810, overlooking Rock Creek Lake, which is Southeast of his position at 44.428260, -119.830200. When Russell points on the map at water sources, his finger is at about 44.435300, -119.878090, which is West Branch Rock Creek. This may be a meaningless gesture for the camera. The lake with the name scribbled out is Rock Creek Lake (pictured above). The 6200 ft peak he was on is slightly above, and to the right of his finger. "W" is the ridge, and "X" is base camp. "Z" is where his finger is at. "Y" was that little lake noted in the LIDAR scan.

Wow! A bird's nest is an excellent place to look for hair! Why haven't I ever thought of that? I find my dog's hair in nests when I have to knock down sparrow nests from around our eaves. So going to a place with sasquatch activity and checking out bird's nests is a stroke of minor genius.

There are a lot of people who will call any 400 yard shot on big game irresponsible. I'm not one of them, but I'm really particular on where I would try such a shot, and I never shoot for the head on big game. I went ground squirrel shooting with my brother once. That's his favorite hunting. They shoot the heads off of them at 300-500 yards, and I did it with his rifles, so I know it can be done, but that ain't sasquatch hunting, bear hunting, or even deer hunting. If you botch a shot, it's no big deal. His rifles are incredibly fine tuned, are chambered firbthe mist accurate calibers there are, and the scopes are extremely high powered and expensive. I prefer meat hunting, but different strokes for different folks. Just a point you might want to consider: Alaskan big game guides like to get their clients to shoot big bears at the range of 125 yards, regardless of how good a shot the client is or what he's shooting. The reasoning is that 125 yards is a good range to allow time for follow up shots on a possible charging bear, it's close enough for good shot placement on the first shot, and there isn't much energy loss like there is at 200 yards and farther. I shoot a 300 WinMag at caribou at the longer ranges, so even at 400 yards, there is still plenty of energy left for a 450 lb. ungulate. I would consider shooting a grizzly at 200 yards with that rifle (200 grain Swift A-Frames) to be maximum range. Anything farther is asking for trouble, and following a wounded bear is the kind of trouble I really don't need.

Go on ....the more you post about your shooting skills the less believable you become on this forum . lol

You've probably seen that you can do both eh? No light attached but the mount is on: R0019461 by LIght Pirate, on Flickr

A hoax? Of what? I thought it was a joke, not a hoax.

You are really onto something that is rampant in bigfoot research. Most of the groups that have done organized research and searches start with the premiss that it is a big ape. Name many of the big names and they downplay the intelligence they are dealing with. If you start with a dumb animal premiss. you don't bother to camouflage game cameras, set simple bait stations, assume hunting tactics that works with deer, elk, and bear should work with bigfoot. Then are totally confounded when tactics do not seem to work with bigfoot and are unwilling to admit they are being outsmarted in the field. Because how could a big dumb ape, that cannot even weave baskets, or make a bow and arrow, outsmart them? I think that BF only exists now because it as a species has successfully and often avoided humans for many millennia. Human contact has not treated other bipedal competitors as well throughout mankind's history. As far as we know bigfoot is the only one still around.

I've brought friends on an overnight backpack to different areas I go sasquatching . When they see the vastness of the forest, knowing they're miles from civilization, and how "spooky" it is in the black of night, each one, without fail, has admitted the surroundings could accommodate a sasquatch. At night, I'll get the proverbial, "What the hell was that??!!", when they hear noises all around. One time, on an overnight with a friend I brought, we experienced a rock throw and branch break. Nowadays, he"ll hike in with me during the day to poke around but he won't stay overnight in the backcountry where we go. HaHa! Take your skeptical family or friends into the deep recesses of the forest. They'll enter the woods a skeptic and leave the next morning open to its existence.

I think that is a good thing. The last thing we need is more BF enthusiast crashing throw the woods banging rocks and trying out their weak BF yell. I am sure it is stressful to the BF and only makes life harder for the true researchers.

Very interesting face! The eyes ARE strange, MClark!

Meh......it is just the internet. But why don't you offer up a rebuttal on what's improbable about my skill set. Your questioning of it would in reality reveal your own ignorance of the subject matter, my skill set is actually quite unremarkable. Please go on......

That's what makes the world go round my friend regardless of the subject matter, you get to be the architect and I'll be the hammer LOL

Don't scurry off back up your claim...….what so improbable about a 400yrd head shot of a still target? Whoa there big fella LOL I'm just responding to the questions of others, but thx for the welcome!

It's funny you mention the ground squirrels, we shot ground hogs in Virginia but yes it did get old after a while. I used to "guide" on the same property I mentioned, the owners brother and a couple of buddies(city boys) would show up once or twice a year and hunt/drink, not my idea of hunting but it had to be done to keep my little hunting preserve. I would always put them where they would have the highest success rate and in stands that they would not be taking long shots, I even told one group there was no rifle hunting allowed one year and they had to use shotguns. I had three rifles I used on a regular basis, 270/30.06/7mm mag obviously the only one I'd consider for biggie would be the 7mm. I had purchased it with the intent of Prong Horn hunting, which can involve some long shots, never made that trip. I got to the point that I stopped bone collecting (that's what they call it now} and got pretty good at the head shots, no wasted meat and they dropped in their tracks. My logic at the time was if I did miss, no harm no foul they might have a hole in the ear but they wouldn't be running around wounded. My apologies for the continued derail, back to the OP question I think the obvious answer is there is no Bigfoot, but if you want to get the cart before the horse and assume it does exist and has evaded detection/verification since forever, I can certainly understand why one could assume all manner of ninja of the forest attributes. I understand the logic path that is followed quite well, it applies to every facet of hunting and fishing one does. Just because I go fishing for smallmouth today and I'm unsuccessful doesn't mean there are no smallmouth in the James River today, I just don't know what they are biting today or the weather, water clarity, ect ect might not be right for them to feed today.

The cart before the horse refers to accepting Bigfoot as a real possibility and attributing all manner of behavior, and I get that's what the forums about, discussing the possibilities. I have experienced every type of Bigfoot encounter reported with the exception of a face to face encounter in my 50+ year's of kicking around the woods. LOL on the downgrades....remember who sent me, they are badges of honor!!! Just kidding but I do appreciate your comment. I think they should add a least popular contributor banner LOL!

Sure you can take it seriously, but when you start attributing behavior to something that you can't even film/observe on a regular basis, its really just an exercise in imaginative thinking and I don't mean that as an insult, just couldn't think of a better term. I haven't seen anything on TV or from any researcher that couldn't be easily explained so you'll have to help me out on that one. I've been stalked 4 separate times, two of the stalkers became dinner one I let go, the other ran off when I turned on it, as a rule this is a highly dangerous tactic and only to be practiced by idiots and those that like the idea of being dinner or of course professionals like me. I've heard ever sound attributed to Bigfoot, found all manner of bent trees, structures, stick figures. I have found tracks, nothing like the tracks that are cast those are obvious fakes, but double bear tracks stuff like that. I guess I could say I've seen Bigfoot I've seen all sorts of large furry creatures running away, but I'll stick with bear, boar, mountain lion, before I go with Bigfoot scooting around on all fours. The fossil record could be revealing but I doubt it, what it will show over time is how our family tree is a bush not a tree, that's really already happening. But I think the giant upright hominid ran into the cube-square law at some point around 7-8 feet at best. I'm just here to help...….but yes mine (and my mind) is a simple world LOL!

I never understand why so many here only criticize the work of others. The entire field suffers from a bucket of crabs mentality and THAT is why the subject is a laughing stock and will never yield results. Too many working against each other and not together. Too many hoaxers and too many armchair enthusiasts who do nothing, but attempt to discredit anything that doesn’t involve them directly. Get of your y’all and go out there and actually do something. Go spend 3 weeks in the woods, bring back some serious results. Until then just be quiet because most of you aren’t bringing any value and **** sure aren’t bringing in any results.