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LOL at bathroom remodeling....yeah. Once used my truck jack to leverage out an old steel tub that had been framed in. Just reached that point at the end of a long day when I had run out of patience. But to your our original point Hiflier, regardless of what we might find by hunting around, you would think this technology would have been embraced by researchers everywhere, but apparently has not been. When I first saw that Animal Planet documentary I had a “Holy Crap!” reaction. What explains the apparent lack of enthusiasm? Unreliability? Expense? Proprietary process requiring licensing ? I, like you, am stumped.

So naturally I had to pit my obviously superior web searching skills against yours Hiflier. And of course I failed. You are correct. If there is information out there, it is not easy to find. To say the least. Here’s a suggestion though. I remember discussing this with you on the old thread on this topic and about the documentary of the recent Himalayan expedition to look for Yeti evidence. That was the first mention I had ever seen concerning eDNA, and it might have been for you too maybe? If you can locate that video, find out the identity of the female French researcher who brought that technology to the expedition. Find her, and where she is employed and you will have a substantial leg up. If you do, I know we can count on you to update us, and I look forward to hearing. Here’s a link: https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/factual/lost-kingdom-of-the-yeti-animal-planet/5130150.article

Another good post, ShadowBorn. And it's great that you are looking into this stuff on your own. It's an important and rewarding step to take. The more I got into things the more interesting they became Sometimes I read papers a half dozen times. If I came across language and terms I didn't know I would look them up. And then I would go back and read paper or a paragraph again with a better understand. Using proper terms also helps when connecting with a scientist, should you be lucky enough to email or speak to one. As far as Human contaminated samples go, what I've been trying to do is work out how to convince a scientist to re-test the sample to see if there is a NOTCH2NL-B gene. That gene is the easiest to test for from what I have read and there already are protocols specifically designed for it so a new one doesn't have to be created. A scientist can actually purchase that kit on the internet. The funding would be covered by academia. There are also ready-made kits for each of the Great Apes as well. And, as you may guess, they're not cheap. That's why trying to get a university's zoology department on board is the best way to go. So far, it also seems to almost impossible. But I keep trying to find an open ear of someone who will listen. And BTW, the article you linked was from 2015 and has a lot of great info in it. Thanks. But I also have to say that during the last five years since, the technology as far as what it can find and do now has gotten even better and more precise. Today I fully trust the process's power and capability.

Hey from Illinois here. Long time believer, but not a knower unfortunately, not sure what it is really tho..

Dr. Disotell, in an old interview, said that a good sample could be tested and that if he got one he would sense some samples out in a blind test for corroboration. AND, that it would hold up against peer review because DNA doesn't lie. And I think the Skookum cast would have been a perfect example where e-DNA would have been the tool to use had the technology been around at the time. As far as the internet goes? Plenty of stuff about Sasquatch and Bigfoot. Plent of science and stuff about e-DNA. The issue is one doesn't find the terms under one roof, not even as a speculative subject. And NEVER is the term NOTCH2NL and Bigfoot ever found. If it is, it's always in a referral, done by an internet bot, to Bigfootforums.com. No Humans other than me are out there bringing it up. And I received another beautiful downvote. Thank you, whoever it was @ShadowBorn e-DNA is extremely accurate and is used all the time in lakes, ponds, streams and soil by F&W biologists, academia and animal, bird, insect and bacterial geneticists.