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  1. What I find interesting and may have bearing on the question of BF is that both horses and camels originated on North America and migrated to Eurasia. There was a huge camel whose fossils have been found very near the artic circle in Canada that apparently was very adapted to the cold arctic. The last native NA horse disappeared from the fossil record only 8000 to 10,000 years ago only to be reintroduced back into NA in the 1600s by the Spanish. Could it be that BF had unknown origins in the Americas? There are certainly monkeys in South America who came from someplace and that could have evolved. It just seems to me that the origin and ancestral record of BF is so hard to imagine that it might be even stranger than we have imagined.
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  2. I finally broke down and got myself my first ESEE. I have not had it out in the field yet, but I LOVE the way it feels in my hand, and the sheath can be configured for a lefty like me. I really love the handle scales, they feel just right, and textured to make them grippy. Hope to take it out this coming weekend if all goes well.
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  3. @Huntster I agree on the Marten. My encounter with one occurred when I returned the second day to retrieve the front quarters of a moose, having packed out everything else the first day. When I got to the carcass, a marten stood atop it, refusing to let me near it. All efforts to chase it off were fruitless, so I had to dispatch it with my .22 revolver. The tanned hide has sat on my wife's nightstand ever since (about 35 years now), and she picks it up and strokes every now and then, as if it were her pet. On topic, I think that migration both ways across Beringia was very likely for most everything that existed each time that the area opened up, including homo xxx.
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  4. The largest monkey now in the new world is 25 lbs. If anything evolved in the new world that is not known now in the fossil record, it could have evolved completely independently of monkeys. The present ice age cycle has been running over 2,1 million years now. For the first part of that they started every 41,000 years. For the last 800,000 years they occur every 100,000 years. The interglacial periods like we are in now only last 10,000 to 12,000 years. BF or its ancestors could have arrived anytime during the low water levels during any of the ice ages as likely did the monkeys. For all that matter as old as human existence seems to be in South America that is currently pushing towards 30,000 years ago, maybeo some Polynesian sea farers brought monkeys with them. To make it clear there is no evidence of BF ancestry in the Americas. But lack of evidence does not rule it out completely. They came from someplace. But they seem very well adapted to life during and between ice ages so could have been here a very long time, perhaps through several ice age cycles. Since their prime habitat is in the Northern Sierra Nevada and the Cascades of the PNW and Canada, volcanism likely has destroyed much of the evidence of their existence. What volcanism has not destroyed, the glaciers grinding out of the mountains during the ice ages have finished the job. The super volcano hot spot that is now underneath Yellowstone park, worked its way across Oregon, and Idaho, to its present location. Now and then erupting violently, in a matter that makes the St Helens eruption look small. Mt Mazama, now Crater Lake, likely erupted during the time BF was in North America. If mankind had originated in North America instead of Africa, the unstable geology of North America would likely have destroyed all existence of our origins. The Cascades were preceded by a mountain range even larger that has nearly completely eroded away. Africa, especially the cradle of humanity, were all evidence of early man has been found, has changed little in 100s of millions of years.
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  5. There is nothing in the Giganto fossils that can ascertain their hunting/gathering tactics. Indeed, an almost universal trait of primates is social grouping, at least into family units. I raised the point to illustrate that the Arctic environment has been much warmer many, many times over the millions of previous years. Indeed, even today, political actors are using Arctic warming as a propaganda tool. That point shows that Asian/American migration, in both directions, by virtually any potential creature, and going back millions of years, was not only possible but is a scientifically recognized phenomenon.
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  6. .......it would remain an Orang. But not only did it not, it never was an orang. The theory clearly states that Giganto and orangs diverged from a common ancestor 10-12 million years ago. Lucy, an Australopithecine, was dated back just 3.2 million years, and look at how much evolution occurred since Lucy walked the Earth. Beringia has been exposed as a grassy steppe and boreal forest several to a dozen times in just the past 100,000 years. How many 100,000 year periods have there been in the past 10 million years? A hundred. Reptilian dinosaur fossils are common in Alaska, either redefining dinosaurs as non-reptilian or proving tropical environments in the Arctic.
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  7. Pot. I don't think there is equal evidence for all of those things you mentioned nor is the sheer volume of accounts equal among those subjects. However if you are going to bring up gnomes and pixies (fairies) then yes there is a ton of that kind of phenomenon and I think there is something to it. I like to read old folk tails from that part of the world. The accounts from another age and a different culture are often astoundingly similar to what we experience over on this continent in nature and description. If anything reading those kinds of accounts from the past and comparing them to today's paranormal phenomenon only further confirms for me the reality of the phenomenon rather than suggesting its non existence. But you are really failing to understand or respond to my point for bringing up different forms for a phenomenon I am suggesting could all be related and really the same thing. If Jung is correct, and I think he is to some extent for sure, it does not matter if it is a fairy, a bigfoot, an orb or a UFO. They would all be manifestations of the one numinous force drawing from the collective unconscious of humanity. From this perspective you make the mistake of thinking of these phenomenon as separate rather than related or even the same. It is really humorous though to have you try to mock this idea when this is exactly the kind of mocking the close minded and ignorant use on people who think bigfoot is real..... Pot meet kettle......
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  8. Disagree, It would have been outcompeted by better suited competitors in new surroundings. Or predated on. A more proto human derivative is much more likley.
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