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If we can discuss flatulent invisible BFs we can discuss this too

..and if so what type of shelter do you use? I normally use a tent when I camp however in my pursuit to see BF for myself it seems fairly obvious I'm not going to SEE anything if I'm inside a tent and to be honest I think if I heard something out there in the dark I'd probably 'chicken out' and not want to look. I do have access to a Gazebo, which I considered could provide a reasonable degree of shelter from the elements whilst allowing me a 360 degree view of my surroundings. My only concern is how unstable it may become in windy conditions. It wouldn't be the first time I've had a gazebo take off on me! Any experienced campers on here?

Lol. Snakes have supposedly been bad this year, but we haven't seen a single one. Yeah, in addition to the usual hiking stuff like water, food, first aid kit, GPS, flashlights, knives, etc...we have to carry a monocular, a night vision camera, 2 action cams, the FLIR, the Sionyx, recording equipment, casting materials, extra batteries, battery chargers, firearms... That's why we have taken a couple of weeks off. The heat and humidity is too much. It is doable, but it is not enjoyable in the slightest. Not to mention that the oppressive heat limits the FLIR and the humidity plays havock on our camera lenses. Not looking forward to that first trip back out. My endurance is probably crap right now after few lazy weeks.

Amen, brother. Two months ago, a fellow sasquatcher brought his drone to one of our two hotspots. He ended up getting it hung up in a tree somewhere out of sight at a pond we were at. We went back with two other friends and the four of us couldn't find it anywhere. He had a replacement last weekend and it was pretty amazing how quickly it can access a location and how you can see what's in the forest. When you have "the list" only to find that you have to cross some items off, it makes you prioritize. Camera or comfortable sleep? Another shirt or more ammo? Add a thermal...now what do I eliminate? Last week, I chose a wind shirt and SONY PCM-M10 over 22oz of snake gaiters. Naturally, I ran into the largest Timber Rattler I've ever seen. My list quickly changed---forever!

The FLIR TK is a game changer. Before it, success was measured by what you heard rather than what you saw. Now, we've equalized the playing field and can actually compete in the opponent's home field.

Ventriliquil farts???

Is this a serious post?

Great recommendations and suggestions from all of you. Thank you. The overarching criterion for me is it must be conducive for backpacking as that is how I do almost all of my sasquatching. Size matters so it must as compact and light as possible yet allowing me to manually focus. I've been looking at the SONY a6000 and 6100 as that line seems to have a smaller profile.

Are you mocking my mystery fart story? For the record, I'm not 100% convinced it was an invisible bigfoot, or that my friend didn't just let one fly. It could have perhaps been an invisible dog, although I'm certain I would've smelled that.

I have run across a few reports over the year of bigfoots fighting each other. Here is what is probably the best report to date: https://bigfootforest.com/deer-hunter-witnesses-two-huge-bigfoot-like-creatures-fighting/

Yes, my FLIR TK has the lower 9hz refresh rate. slow panning across a scene isn't an issue, but fast panning sees the image in the display slow to catch up and so a bit unsteady. But you're right, in most situations the refresh rate isn't an important drawback. Resolution can be though, although the FLIR is not bad in that regard.

I'm not convinced that refresh rate is that important with thermal imagers based on what we use them for. I can't speak to the refresh rate for night vision but wonder if it might also be the same. The refresh rate is simply the frames per second. It would logically follow that the higher the frames per second (the refresh rate) the more fluid or smooth something would look as you viewed it. In bigfooting, I think we're more likely to see something peeking from behind a tree than sprinting across a field. In such an instance, a lower refresh rate may not be even noticed. In the video below, there is an ever so slight difference between the 30hz and the 9hz but not enough to make a difference in my purchase decision. When I was first looking for a thermal, I was determined it had a high refresh rate until I saw the videos below. My Pulsar has a high refresh rate but I would be happy with anything 9mz and above. If you are using NV to move around the woods, I suspect you are not running or moving quickly. My suspicion is the slower the movement, the less to be gained by a higher refresh rate. I'll take a look and see if that holds true with NV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC_1WxF5RsQ

Because Arvedis reported him, I checked and the IPs matched... seriously SB, I don't go around banning people for the fun of it.

Here as in Alaska? That is pretty telling if so.

I honestly don't know the first thing about spelunking other than caves exist and people go into them for fun. So, I have no clue how much of the world's cave system is explored without Googling it. We did find small human looking footprints outside of a small cave opening on the side of mountain. They were similar to Lane County's juvenile Bigfoot prints.

You could be right. Sounds like as good a method as anything. Strange thing was when the BF blundered into me, I had no idea the how active the area was. I did not find that out until I started scouting around the encounter location. Once I narrowed down the active area, I could not seem to cause them to blunder into me. Thinking about it, I think it was likely that they watched me enter their area, and always had me located when I was there. I might have made that easier for them by parking in the same location most of the time. In retrospect I wish I had made the trek to the ridgeline overlooking the creek valley, and set up a high power scope with camera. During the week they would move around in daylight hours and I had a good chance of seeing them. I thought I could outsmart them by mixing it up in their valley. But I did not give them enough credit for their ability to avoid me. An older juvenile messed with me some to let me know he was there, but never let me get a look at him. I am glad he never threw anything larger than a small rock. He was so accurate with that he could have killed me anytime with a larger rock.

Given a negative point for showing an interest in seeing a photo that someone has taken of a BF... on a BF forum?!?

I banned him because he's a troll.

That's the problem with Bigfootery, or whatever you want to call this. Nothing is proven, so it's easy to portray yourself as an expert. Just make crap up as you go along, stay relatively consistent with your story, cite other 'experts' who also make crap up, and you can come off as an authority. People think that memorizing and reciting the history of those involved in the search for Bigfoot and other trivia involved with it makes them an expert on the creatures themselves. I could correctly recite the names of everyone who has ever won the Nobel Prize for physics. Where they went to school, notable achievements, basic bios... That does not make me a physicist myself. That makes me adept at reciting memorized nuggets of trivial information. When someone begins name dropping researchers, I zone out. You are not an expert on Bigfoot, you are an expert on other human beings who are also interested in Bigfoot. Some of us have our pet theories and sometimes see what we think are patterns in the creatures' behavior, movements, or biological drives. We can identify commonalities in reported sightings and try to predict future encounters. Otherwise, we are basically fumbling around in the dark. If we weren't we would have definitive proof by now. Anyone who says that they are an expert is full of it.

He's been in bigfootery for a while from what I can tell and I think he has an idea about himself as an expert. Everyone else (with the exception of researchers he respects) is beneath him. I never would have noticed him except he created and publicized numerous, repetitive anti-Mike Paterson videos. I'm not aware of him going over the edge like that against other people. So maybe he is losing his grip. That is an unfortunate pattern of some BF researchers.

You and your lady have a great time out there. Many of my trips are not specifically Sasquatch searches, but hunting/prospecting/exploring outings, with my eyes open for BF evidence while out there. With a name like Emerald Creek, the area bodes well for your gem search. I have 2 watersheds near me that are full of garnets, named Garnet Creek and Ruby Creek.

I sincerely doubt that he has conducted a long term effort of secretly hoaxing evidence. He had a real 'look at me!' kind of attitude. People like that don't usually labor quietly...he would have hoaxed one piece of evidence and then been openly gloating over it. He may have done a few fake calls while already in the woods, but that was it.

I'm going on a short 2-day tent camping trip in Idaho with my girlfriend next week in a pretty remote area. Our main focus will be on taking the UTV on some trips to huckleberry patches and digging for garnets. Lots of bears in the area and a few wolves. Not going to be a "Bigfoot Expedition" per se. I don't have a thermal camera, or even a video camera with night vision, yet, so not sure how effective we would be going out at night. But at least we will be out in the wilderness and aware of our surroundings and looking for evidence. Better than nothing, I suppose. Area we'll be in:

Sounds like he stays on the West side of the state. We're a bit more trigger happy here on the East side and into Idaho. I don't know if I would shoot a Bigfoot if given the opportunity, due to my morals on taking a life only for self-defense or food. But I would probably shoot a guy in a Bigfoot suit trying to hoax people, lol.

The JREF had quite a chuckle over that one.... are you guys running out of subjects to poke fun at over there?

Yes, it bothers me! I bust my butt looking for evidence, put hundreds of miles on my old truck every month going out in the woods and have spent a lot of money on this hobby/obsession! Hoaxers are liars and waste my time and money. No tolerance for that BS.

Hoaxers make field work more difficult. When you have to sort of what might have been done by humans and what was done by something else. I consider call blasting, making vocal calls, and making wood knocks nearly in the same category as hoaxing. It forces field researchers to have to figure out if humans are in the area making those sounds. Even worse than that, I have seen little evidence that it increases the chance of having visual contact with BF. Evidence seems to show that it just scares BF away once they determine that the sounds were made by humans. Another factor related to that is what those who have had extended contact with groups of BF tell me. BF do not like humans to be deceitful or tricksters. They seem to have no sense of humor about that sort of thing. I guess it is a matter of trust. They need some level of trust with a human to want to have contact. Trying to lure BF in with vocalizations and knocking would create an atmosphere of distrust.

Sorry my choice of words is probably confusing! What I'm saying is it gets on my nerves / irritates me when people deliberately mislead others for personal gain such as hoaxing etc. Considering the well established community you have in the States and elsewhere internationally with members investing serious time and money into quality research, any attempt to deliberately waste that resource for the sake of a laugh or some attention is just pathetic (in my opinion) I echo the sentiments of most in this thread, it doesn't sit well with me. Edit: punctuation

It's not like I'm experienced on the subject but generally speaking, any attempt to intentionally mislead/deceive others for personal amusement really chafes me. Edit: spelling

Right. Can you make it anymore obvious, Rod?

That's when they run at you and stop and go back and leave you alone. A scare tactic. I am sure it must have happened to ya before' No !. So I guess you have time for me to ask me a question. WoW Unbelievable. Are you going to try to investigate me too. Natfoot This happen in 2000 up in Northern Michigan in Foley Swamp. It had to do with a hand print that was dragged across a road. The guy later told me that he faked that hand print. That same night was the night of my first encounter with a creature. We had placed glow sticks across a two track with a can of salmon that we had poked holes in it. As we were all sitting around the fire I seen the glow stick start to move. The guy that faked the hand print decided to investigate it . When all of a sudden we all heard him scream. I mean he sounded with fear in his scream. I grabbed my pistol and his friend grabbed his shotgun and we walked over to where he was. He was frozen in place and barely able to speak saying that there was a creature behind this brush. so i was walked around this fence blocking this two track. I had my flash light in my left hand and my right hand on my pistol ready to un holster it. I did not see what he was seeing . But when i flashed my light across these pines. That's when I seen My first creature. It just stood there sideways to me. You can find my first encounter on the BFF 1.0 and you can bet that I caught hell for it here on the forum. So I do not need the crap all over again. I am always ready for a good fight. The Navy taught me good.That might be why these creatures have some thing for me.