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@BlackRockBigfoot and @ShadowBorn i appreciate both of your POVs here. Text format can be a pain to "read in to" and is often misinterpreted. So no harm no foul on SBs end, again thanks for the input. As for the ridges, I'm going to try amd get better images, of the toe area. The smaller rock that was captured in the track 100% forced the toes to dig that deep from the step off. It measures at 11in with the ridge of the foot bent downward and toes curled, with that in mind the foot was likely 12-13in in real life. so its small for a alledged sasquatch but ive found 10-11in tracks before in this area previously. The likelyhood of someone being barefoot in the area is pretty low, as its a pretty good bit off any trails and out a creek a little ways but I cant rule out the possibility. I always err on the side of casting everything if for no other reason than to keep your skills up to snuff. Ill post up close shots of the toes shortly.

Just scored a used one that fell into my lap. The roof top tent was cool but want a bit more comfort without sacrificing mobility. The top pops up and it has a kitchen with water, fridge and a stove! https://fourwheelcampers.com (Picture isn’t mine)

I'm 2 weeks late getting this posted but ive been swimming in busy work and follow ups. Below is the report as it was sent in to us at the West Virginia High Strangeness Collective. The gentlemen who has this encounter is a friend of mine from one of my other hobbies, field herpetology, and up until this point had joked on occasion about bigfoot. His words are in "--" and the investigation notes follow. I'll attach pictures of the findings velow as well, this was by far one of the most exciting days of my life. "I share this event completely aware of the backlash, and ridicule I will receive. The day of April 12, 2020 had weather conditions shaping up to be perfect for my favorite hobby, amateur herpetology. So like every spring night when the rain is falling heavy I decided it would be a great night to cruise the roads and document the species of reptiles and amphibians crawling on the floor of a local state forest, and like normal an unnamed passenger (at this time) opted to cruise the backroads with me on the search. We arrived at the state forest a little after 8pm, the sun not yet fallen, and the skies not quite dark enough for the animals I was searching for to be emerging from their hiding places yet. So, we took a drive through the park to kill time, look for other interesting animals and wait for the sun to fully set. Nothing unusual was happening. The frogs were starting to call as the sun fell behind the mountain and night began to fall. The birds chirping fell quiet with the sunset. The deer were retreating from the wet valley I was intending to search that night. Absolutely nothing unusual for the area I frequent on a regular basis. In an average week I visit this same location 5-6 times to document any new egg masses, the species I observe, or anything else I may find interesting at the given time. I have observed and heard coyotes and owls in this valley on several occasions, and have become familiar with their behavior and noises as a result. This average night was about to take a terrifying turn I never imagined. In this particular forest I have a handful of areas that host great habitats for documenting a wide variety of species. I made my way to the first vernal pool area I wanted to check in the flooded valley wetland that night. I exited my vehicle, the time now approaching 9pm, and I observed a toad on the gravel parking area. I decided to document the first species of the night. I stopped, got my phone out of my pocket and snapped the first picture of the adventure. That would end up being the only explainable thing I encountered in that valley that night… as I took two to three more steps, just passed the giant rocks that prevent vehicles from driving into the open area of the woods, towards the first vernal pool I was intending to shine with my flashlight, I heard a groan that I have never heard in these woods before. This groan was deep, almost sounding human or at least primate in nature, clearly agitated, and extremely too close to where I was currently standing. I had clearly interrupted something, and it was furious about it. Something was in this valley with me, and I had no identification for the sounds it was expressing towards my presence. The chills that shot down my spin and covered my body was like nothing I have experienced in my life. I looked back to see the unnamed person with me void of color with eyes as large as I have ever seen on anyone. My first reaction was get back in the vehicle and try to make sense of what we clearly both just witnessed. What was a short distance back to the vehicle felt like an eternity carrying the fear that had consumed my body at this point. Merely thinking about that groan is enough to spark those same chills through my body. As we sat in the vehicle for what in reality was likely only a few seconds, but felt like minutes, asking each other what that noise was, a second, now closer, groan rang through that valley and the fear struck every molecule of my body again. This thing, whatever it was, was literally on top of us. My only mission at this point was to get the hell out of that valley, and my unnamed passenger expressed the same mission aloud. People often ask why there was no video, or picture, or recording of some kind in the age of everyone having a phone in their pocket, but after experiencing that sound, in near complete darkness minus my own lights, I can definitely understand why people just bolt. I lost all the preconceived ideas we all have that we would be the one with the guts to stick around to find out what just made that sound. I drove over an hour to search a completely different forest and wetland area for species that night because I no longer wanted to be in that area and sleep was sure to elude me for days after this unexplainable experience. After returning home that night and the following day I attempted to make sense of the sounds we witnessed. I messaged friends avid in the outdoors to jokingly tell them I heard a murder or a bigfoot last night, hoping for identification suggestions from anyone close to me that could give me an answer more reasonable than either of those ideas. Nothing. I researched large cats that are not supposed to be here, and those that are, nothing resembling that groan in felines I listened to. I researched coyote and wolf chatter, again nothing in the Canine world. I researched owls, raptors, bears, and once more nothing matched that bone chilling sound. I honestly hoped and waited for the news to report a body, seriously, I was just seeking answers at this point. I was admittedly becoming desperate for answers. Someone has heard this noise in these woods before. I couldn’t possibly be the only one. So I desperately contacted a friend of mine (he will be making his own posts about this event) highly interested and invested in the fields of cryptozoology, and the paranormal. Admittedly I made this contact in hopes to get an answer something along the lines of “that’s not a sound I’m aware of” much to my surprise he wanted to know more. Where did this happen? When did this happen? Can you tell me what you recall? I gave him the details of what I recalled, the above event, with the location in more detail, and the investigation was on. The details of his investigation are heavily documented in photograph and video. What he found matches almost too unbelievably perfect to the experience I described to him. I don’t want to go into detail of his side of documenting this event since he will do that better than I can. However, the evidence I received after he visited the site of my experience literally made my heart drop, I could feel the color once again leave my face. I’m still not sure what we heard in that valley that night, but what he uncovered leaves me completely unsettled about where the evidence appears to point. The only thing I’m sure of is whatever it was didn’t want to share that valley with us and it still gives me chills when I think about it. You can be the judge of the evidence for yourself. I won’t tell you what to believe, because I’m still unsure what to make of this myself." - Jon Tinney Field notes : Weather conditions have been in perfect to preserve physical evidence between now and the the sighting. Once I arrived on site, I located the vernal pool and immediatly noticed 2 footprints that were very deep in the substrate on the edge of the pool. As I navigated the game trail that lead around the pool I noticed a sapling broken at chest height, and twisted with a second break 18 inches above the first. Moving along the game trail I located a smaller game trail that made its way toward the area where i saw the initial prints. On this trail i found another foot print in the mixed soil and leaf litter. I marked that print with a glove and continued to the original set of prints that i noticed off the bat. As I nelt by the first two prints I heard a series of tree knocks from above me higher up the mountian. The series was in this pattern ***----** i find this inconsequential yet noteworthy. The first two prints were full of water, I documentdd them with pictures and video and moved toward the secondary track. While I was moving debris from the print to verify that it was castable I noticed an accompanying print that was the other foot completing a left and right set. I prepared the area as per Dr. Jeff Meldrum instructions in his Sasquatch field guide and poured the plaster casts using creek water and plaster of Paris. While i waited for these to dry i discovered additional 2 prints but didnt have enough plaster to cast these, they were also very shallow and would not have yeilded much of a cast sample. I documented them in photographs. There is about 7 miniutes of video footage that accompanies the investigation. The casts are now cleaned and pictures will be included, midtarsle breaks are present in both casts, the heels and midtarsle break are the most impressive features to these casts as the ground is very hard and the toes were not clear but were disernable . I tried to leave impressions by jumping up and down but was unable to make impressions that were as deep as the footprints. No hair samples to be found. When I showed the results to the witness they could not believe that the evidence corroborated their encounter. The subject was actually much closer to him durring the encounter after I showed him pictures of the area and where I was finding the trace evidence. The footprints were pointed in such a way by a tree that it would have been watching him and was actually within 50-75ft most of the encounter. The recovered casts measured at 14 1/2 inches long. A follow up site walk through was preformed with Dr. Russ Jones, he reviewed the casts as well. The exact location of the site will not be exposed as it is an active investigation area. I'll post more pictures tomorrow as I've reached a post/response limit for today 😆

That's a pretty good idea on casting. I am always stingy with the casting material, because I am limited to what I carry in. I should just cast more just to stay proficient at it.

I won't disclose the ammo purchase(s) I made today. She won't mind.

Greetings, everyone. I am a long time believer in Sasquatch, and hope that one day they can be classified by science so we can officially get some laws protecting them and their habitats. I live in East TN and don't have a lot of field experience. I live in a city, but there are mountains within an hour or so drive in pretty much all directions. Anytime I do get out in the wilderness, I'll do some wood knocks along the trail I'm hiking or around the campsite, fishing hole, etc. I have had a few possible replies but none that I can say for sure were a direct response to my knocks or that they were caused by a Sasquatch. Because of work and my family, I don't have a lot of free time to devote to the field, but I do my best to keep up with the most recent news and evidence, and will contribute here as best as I can.

Where to begin with this... First off, telling the guy "Some times more attention to detail is needed when finding these prints or anything related to these creatures" is a bit condescending. He has done a nice job so far with observing, cataloging, and reporting his findings. Maybe that wasn't your intention, but that's how it came across. I think that you are complaining about the length of time that it took for me to edit and add that the OP had already addressed it? I have a hard time deciphering what you are saying here. I am not sure if you are using a voice to text or if English is not your first language, but if that is what you are upset about...I surf the forum on my phone at work. I have to stop frequently to actually work... often in the middle of the thread. I came back and finished the thread and then made an edit. If you think that a comment not to second guess the guy because he seems competent followed by a late edit as a personal attack of some kind....I am sorry that you chose to take it that way, but I am not going to apologise for making an innocuous comment. As far as your comments about what's going on with the BFF, trying to make you look bad, the Powers That Be, the data loss, etc....I don't even know how to respond to any of that. I am not sure what any of that has to do with my 6 sentence comment or with me. I don't want to derail this thread any more, so I guess if you have anyyhing else just PM me.

I chose a small tow-along, mainly to sleep felling a bit safer in big bear country out West. I also chose it because I was pushing 70 at the time and after decades with my spouse, me and the dog, it seemed the best choice for the three of us. It's only a 16 footer but camping small is he way we like it. lt has everything. That inside bathroom at 3:00am is the BEST thing, too. It's small enough to fit in many tent sites and we don't use a generator. We can go a week unplugged and like being able to leave it to go elsewhere in just the truck. The truck also has a cap which means we can take as much or as little with us as we wish. Oh, and a good rack on top of the cap for the canoe. We looked at slide-in bed campers but the floor space just wasn't going to work for us plus the dog. If I was flying solo, I may have stayed with a tent, or, if it was just me and my spouse at the time we would have gone more compact. But for our lifestyle now we're glad we went the tiny (7x16) house route. On top of that it meant we could comfortably stay with a half-ton truck with a V8 and do the hills and mountains without ourselves becoming a hazard. Last year I upgraded the trailer's wheels from a "C" (65 mph top speed) to a "D" rated set (81 mph) which has a little higher cargo weight capacity. This is our fourth season in the rig.

Where are you seeing a hair? There is no visible hair in those pics. Marks in the sand, maybe. But no hair. Don't armchair quarterback the guy. He apparently knows what he is doing. ETA. nevermind. Skinwalker13 addressed the hair above.

These are neat options. Thank you all for the links and information. The only concern I have, is that this is like getting a little pregnant with going the RV route. The features these campers provide have so many gadgets, electronics, kitchen sink and even toilet that they are like a mini RV. Too complex and too much maintenance for just going out camping (for now, maybe later I will bite). I recall that one of the BFRO trip leaders in CA bought one of these (I think from the company that MIB posted) and put it on a Tacoma. He told me that he will never camp in a tent again after he was touched by a BF through the tent wall. That really freaked him out and he felt safer inside a hard shell camper at night. Everybody has their own personal rationale to make this investment.

Cool find! I've looked at similar from All Terrain Campers since they are only a few hours from here and we see a few of theirs around town. One of the guys on one of the bigfoot trips I went on had one so I got to check it out .. thumbs up. Roof top tents are interesting but my GF doesn't have the balance or flexibility to be negotiating ladders .. at all .. never mind in snow, rain, and darkness. I don't want to buy something that she can't use with me. Before I buy a camper, I'm going to have to get a full sized truck to haul it, my current Taco is a crew cab with only a 5 foot bed .. not a win. MIB

Good luck with it. I just spoke with a guy this weekend who was out for the inaugural trip with their new FWC Hawk. Nice rig. Jonathan Hanson has a lot of good stuff to say about them over here: http://www.exploringoverland.com/overland-tech-travel/category/JATAC

I've seen videos of the young lady who uses that camper. She's a very interesting person.

Good job finding the print and casting it as well. What did you use for casting material? Any other prints nearby?

Possible New evidence from the investigation site. Discovered a single track with a full bigtoe and heel found in the cast once it was pulled. When it was cast we couldnt initailly tell much detail due to being full of water. The cast pulled out two stones with it that were in part responsible for the toe impressions due to their postion under the foot. With the toes curled and dug into the sand the impression measured at 11 inches long and 5 inches wide. Could still possibly be human, but it was in a strange location to be barefoot. A lot of animal tracks in the area as well. Cast 4 nice bobcat prints as well. *Photo credit les Odell A good friend of mine Les, from WVCASE came down to the area and I was taking him around showing him different sites in the research area. He initally spotted the track along the creek and I went to collect the plaster after flagging the print.

This is correct, scream this one from the roof tops. the witness actually was experiancing PTSD like symptoms after the event, kept wondering if he was crazy or imagining it, but the person whonwas with him had the same experience. This investigation gave them the peace lf mind that they werent crazy, that a place they have spent years researching has yet to reveal all of its secrets, and it apparantly has some big ones. I tend to lean into skepticisim and look for every other answer out there before entertaining it was possibly sasquatch. Thats why I sent this info to everyone ive met on the circut for peer review before making any of it public. Usually we dont publish anything we find, its just catalogued and made accessible to any researchers who want to see it. This one took on a life of its own though and fast, it also lent itself to my own encouter I had very close to this area, so it just felt special if that makes any sense.

I really like to use hydro-cal when i have it but im a Indy toy maker so I had used my stash on casting some statues and only had plaster of paris. I just had to wait longer for the cast to set than normal. Shoot Cliff Barakman an email, I heard him talking about mixing salt, I think it was, into plaster to aid in drying in wet conditions. The two deepest impressions I was unable to cast becuase they were partially filled with water, so i understand the circumstances your fighting 100%. **** i just found a recipie for it from a naturalist friend of mine. 1tsp of salt flr every 4 cups of plaster. It'll accelerate overall set up time. But helps things set up in wet conditions, but not waterlogged conditions.

@Skinwalker13 To the left of the print did you notice that strand of long black hair. It is right there in the open for collection. Some times more attention to detail is needed when finding these prints or anything related to these creatures. Like you said it could be human but at the same time it could be these creatures foot prints. But good job.

Blackrockbigfoot Do you have a problem how I see things. You had plenty of time to answer my post way before Skinwalker13 did. You could have told me not to armchair him way before i asked him the question about the hair I thought I seen in the photo. See military folks think different out in the field and when looking at photo's. This is why I asked about what I was seeing in the photo. In the photo it had that shadow as though it looked like a hair but as we found out it was a snail crawling trail. So for me i trust on what Skinwalker13 is posting. This print can go either way as being human or Bigfoot. What does not make it for me is that it was in a muddy grade. As far as it goes for me this could very well be a boot print. But the fact that he was able to get a casting in that wet muddy grade is outstanding. I give him a great job. The other thing is that I have with you is this. Are you hell bent trying to make me look bad? Since this was edited two hours ago after the fact of what was posted by Skinwalker13. I do not blame you on what has gone on the BFF but the Powers that Be who once ran this site. Which were on BFF 1.0 .Like the so called Data loss of the movement of data from server to server. I can go into details But I will not This is not the place for it.