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Meh. It's just made a lot of us keep our evidence to ourselves, and if people ask where the evidence 'is'... we just say "It's out THERE. Go find it for yourself. It's not my job."

I have been told stuff by BFF members who are also BFRO members that are not true. The first was that the organization simply had not yet had enough time to investitigate my sighting report. The second being that the organization in WA lacks invistigators and they should get to it in 3 or 4 years. The first was disproven by the Finding Bigfoot producer call. Now the fact it has beein over 10 years since the reports were made suggests that it will never be investigated in a manner they supposedly do by contacting me. I suspect that the BFRO organization runs on two levels. One shared by most of the membership and another higher echelon level that does not follow the same rules. It could be that the Forum members operate at the first level and are simply not aware of how things really work. I did not keep a copy of the on line reports I made, but I have wondered if the fact that I stated I was an active BF researcher had some impact on the lack of investigation. I have wondered if they are so sold on their own field methodology, that the methodology of researchers not associated with the organization would be dismissed or discounted. I do not know how they determine the location of their expeditions. Anyone who researches an active area could be perceived as being a compeditor or perhaps if the BFRO can determine where the active area is, they would pretend not to investigate the area so they could conduct private or paid expeditions in the area at some time in the future.

I don't think many people will dispute the BFRO lacks evidence as much as anyone else does. Fending off trolls is a universal exercise. Social media is a nuisance for everyone to deal with. I just realized another pet peeve but I don't want to feed the trolls. For a long time, there has been a reactionary sect of Bigfoot trolls who attack people who post their images and findings. It could be junk but whatever.The thing is, no one is saying "this is evidence." We all know blurry is blurry. Regardless, people should be able to post and discuss their findings, whatever it is, without troll attacks. The immaturity has forced credible bf researchers to quit.

Why do you categorize infrasound in the category of "Supernatural Sasquatch"? Tigers, elephant, giraffe and others produce infrasound. There is nothing supernatural about them.

I think the best thing about BFRO is that it brought the bigfoot topic to the main stream media, I never really knew anything about the topic until I saw some of the episodes and was like wow a creature really living out in the woods of north America and all over the world is really cool. Granted it took me a few episodes to find out that these guys were crazy and never really came in contact with the creature. But I think most people got a good bit of information about the creature from this show that never thought about the subject before. There are some more shows on tv some are good some not so much after a few episodes you can usually tell if they are going to find any evidence or not.

It's extraordinary that you would make such an extraordinary statement.

Beautiful home and I can picture a wood stove burning away on a cold winter's night. 48F....lucky guy.

We just had our 1st snow of the winter this week on Monday. Light dusting below 1000'. Typical west side winter. Probably a little milder than usual. Got down to freezing only a few times. Always have to watch out for elk when you drive through Packwood.

My house when I left. 48 and raining on west side. Feels like spring.

I think joining a group when you're first getting involved in "sasquatchery" is a good idea. You learn how they do night ops, what equipment to bring, how to select areas which present a higher degree of confidence, and how to operate as a team. I did that and it was a valuable experience. After a while, I found myself wanting to focus on specific areas so I ended up doing my own thing. Now I go out by myself or with one other. A few times it has been two others, at the most. There are advantages and disadvantages to being in a group with a fair number of people. The larger the group, the longer decisions take akin to a freighter changing course. It doesn't pivot on a dime. Sometimes, legacy members hold sway and are resistant to change. "We've always done it this way!" Finally, I think there is a fair degree of competition. That's a good thing until it you find someone who tries to torpedo another person's effort to enable themselves to stay on top of the heap. I do miss the comradery but glad to be shed of the power struggles and resistance to change. Now, if I fail, I have no one to blame but myself.

I think they’ve done more good for this subject than bad, inadvertently or not. The tv show was just that, a tv show, no more and no less. Moneymaker gets a lot of bad press, some of it maybe warranted, but you can never knock the guys passion for the subject itself, and I respect that in a person even if I don’t necessarily agree with all he says. Their database deserves a heck of a lot of credit and praise too, and for that alone they get my thumbs up personally.

I am not a member, nor do I have any truck with the BFRO beyond a devotion to reading the sighting reports...and I do that religiously. It might get under emphasized how much that database has contributed to awareness and knowledge. Back in the day, nobody in their wildest dreams ever thought that there could be a compendium of that size and degree of accessibility. I get that we are largely a population of non-readers, boy do I. We've had many epic debates here with some skeptics and scoftics. What those opponents mostly had working against them, I'm convinced (aside from a general lack of outdoor experience) was a noticeable lack of reading comprehension skills, and/or lack of motivation to read at all, along with a deficit in the area of deductive reasoning and critical thought. The BFRO database, and the story it tells, require at least a little bit of those abilities. Once you realize this, the story that is there becomes coherent. To me, if the BFRO and MM disappeared tomorrow, that single legacy would justify all else it might be guilty of perpetrating.