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An inner suburb of Rochester, NY called Greece in Monroe County. It faces towards Buffalo and has other rural towns on the outside before more wilderness takes over.

Maybe he was going to teach another sasquatch a lessen. Being bonked on the head with a crushed car would surly leave a mark.

Hello! I'm just another Matt from Florida. I've been believer in the sasquatch field for quite a while. I believe that there's always opportunities for new species to be discovered and this ape has always held my fascination. I have family in Ohio, there I've encountered a lot and always love to see more on the animal. I'm particularly interested on where it came from, decedent of Homo Erectus?, something earlier? something later? That's where i'm fascinated! I'm big into aviation as well, being a CFI myself, I love to fly over the hills in Ohio and the everglades of Florida before heading to Chub Cay (I fly shuttles and cargo from Florida to the Berry Islands in our KA360). I hope I fit into the community.

Hello Everyone, I’m from Northeast Pennsylvania and have been intrigued by Bigfoot since I was in my teens. I never really took my interest any further then watching the various TV shows on the subject over the years. I recently started reading books, listening to podcasts, and visiting Sasquatch related websites to learn as much as possible. Looking forward to the Springtime so I can get out in the woods of PA and see what’s out there!

howdy do, my name is central jack and I'm fascinated by Bigfoot. Nice to know there's a community out there.

Hello. I am retired, but don't have plans to "get in the field" as far as Bigfoot reconnoitering goes. The 4 state area of SW Missouri, NW Arkansas, NE Oklahoma, and SE Kansas I live in has a history of sightings. My interest in joining the group is to educate myself on the subject, and vicariously enjoy the findings of others. Thanks for allowing me in.

Science has spoken, it needs physical evidence. THIS IS THE 800LBS GORILLA IN THE ROOM. A single tooth or pinky bone is more valuable than 10,000 foot casts or 10,000 PGF’s. The evidence doesn’t get heavier and heavier to science as the numbers grow. There IS a line in the sand. If your evidence doesn’t cross that line? It goes into the giant carnival bin. It lays next to Pixie and Gnome “evidence”. Someone brought up the point that Sasquatch numbers are not healthy enough to harvest a specimen. If they are truly going extinct? One specimen is not going to matter. Better to document what’s left of the unknown species than to let it slip off quietly into the night. Are there other methods than shooting one? Yes. Dr. Disotell in the million dollar Bigfoot bounty showed researchers how to collect evidence. Everything from hair to scat to collecting mosquitos for their blood in their stomachs. Archeological digs could unearth bones. Even walking around in the forest may produce bones to collect. EDNA may hold promise in the future by simply sampling waterways for a complete map of the local fauna. But running samples does cost $$$$. But so does gas, food, dental resin and hi tech video and audio equipment. And none of those produce physical evidence. If your a squatcher that just likes to go out and have “experiences” in the woods. Hey! It’s a free country, right? But if your invested in science? Research LEADS to a discovery! A discovery that must be confirmed by a panel of your peers. Self reflection isn’t an easy task. And it’s easy to loose sight of the goal. Here is my list of things we as a community can improve on. 1) Physical Evidence #1 priority A) Actively hunting the creature B) Collecting trace evidence for DNA samples (Hair, Scat, Blood, etc) C) Noting footprints or tree breaks or screams in the night are fine and dandy. So long as they don’t become the focus of the pursuit. Elk hunters don’t record Bull Elk bugles and call it a day. You follow the sign to the animal itself. You don’t document sign and go home. 2) Share knowledge!!! A) Science requires peer review. Hiding locations of activity? So your the sole “experience” storyteller makes you look like a quack. If your a biologist discovering a new species? Your gonna try to come out with a type specimen. Short of that your going to document the area so that follow on researchers can easily find what you observed. Maybe they will finish what you started. Which IS science. Humans building knowledge in a collective effort. B) Its not about you, your organization or your TV show. It’s about an unknown species. It’s about conservation. 3) Be prepared! A) A 800 lbs omnivore primate is not your friend. Study early hominids and cannibalism. Cannibalism still exists in our own species. Look at Indian legends. Just because your not actively hunting it doesn’t give you a free pass. You could be attacked for the same reasons as a Bear. Territorial dispute, offspring, mating, startled, etc. Or maybe it just hates humans. B) Your knowledge should range from correct bullet calibers to map and compass reading to tracking to survival and first aid. Knowledge is power. But power needs to be applied. So practice, practice, practice. 4) Strength in numbers A) It’s rare and elusive. The best way to combat that is by increasing our numbers in the woods and be ready to collect physical evidence. It’s number 1 strength is that it can hide from us. But it cannot hide all traces of itself. Spread out until the net makes contact and then close in. B) Dont avoid the steep and deep. Because it will not. Think about where humans don’t tread in wilderness. Swamp bogs, mountain peaks, steep canyons, brush, deadfall, etc. Please feel free to add onto the list. Its my observation that the pro kill mindset is more prevalent than it was 10 years ago. Why? Probably because the conventional wisdom of the Finding Bigfoot crowd has failed. The secrecy, the whooping, tree banging, foot casts, the blurry videos. With that said they are a well organized group with a wealth of sightings reports. We don’t need to reinvent the wheel. We just need to get it rolling down the road. I understand. But it gets tiresome repeating oneself over and over and over again.

Yes, especially cross-wind. It also changed the craft from being a one big bimp-like shape with all your components underneath to two smaller sections with the components in the middle. Much more manageable. I think that the Falcon Project and strapping multi spectral cameras to airplanes was just a too costly approach. They also didn't play well with the winds that you get over the tree tops. Using bigger personal drones with quality FLIR thermal cameras (like they did in the new Finding Bigfoot sequel) is the way to go. A large hexacopter or octocopter is more affordable and more tolerable to wind. You can target a specific area inside the woods for the price of a few rechargeable LiPo packs. The 6-cell 30C 21AH pack below was used on my DJI S900 hexacopter and now on my larger VTOLs. It weighs 5.3lbs (2.4kg) and can deliver a whooping 630 continuous amps, if needed. I have three of them which cost $250 each.

This statement reminded me of reports in my local suburb area from the BFRO database. I was literally shocked to find several reports nearby my old home. I knew the streets and terrain so I could visualize the corridor of woods that came up between populated areas. It was an eye opener.

It's always a good idea to start with a search for information on the BFF. However, new threads or polls on old topics help us to be engaged members. By using the latest information at our disposal, perhaps our opinion has changed over the years.

Last time I checked? The CCP was sponsoring Yeren expeditions. I don’t think they are one bit shy about showing their interest in cryptid ape men.

They can’t be somewhere like that full time. As a rancher that buys hay and manages pasture on 350 acres? You would be utterly amazed what a 1000 lbs cow eats in one year. And what the land looks like as a result. You can’t hardly walk 20 feet without stepping in a cow pie. You start talking about a breeding population? Plus being mostly unseen, low impact on the land, very little scat, hair, etc? Just one nocturnal critter moving through? Sure. That Cougar that was killed on the road on the east coast was from South Dakota. No one reported a cougar from point A to B. It was DNA that told them where it came from. For 1500 miles that cat had to drink and eat. It did so undetected. A Bigfoot being a bipedal animal could walk from Alaska to Argentina. No problem believing that. But they don’t wear back packs full of food. It’s forced to live off the land as it goes..... It’s an 800 lbs creature. That’s a lot of groceries. The range of one Grizzly Bear (a fellow omnivore) is 600 square miles. That’s 384,000 acres. These things are not hiding out in a city park for half the year. They can’t. Its impossible.

I was surprised to find them where we found them in July, even though we were warned. I have a friend who lives 3 miles from the location!

I would note for the benefit of new members that you can find several excellent and fulsome threads on almost any topic, like this one, that you have questions about. I have to immediately add that I am among the worst people at figuring out how to find those topics. For instance, there was a robust discussion a few years back that also developed multiple offshoots as to what it would take to find and engage a Bigfoot target (tactical plan, weapons, logistics, etc.). I'm noting this to highlight the depth of information that's here even for the free side (and there's so much more if you become a premium member!) . Found the thread I was thinking about in spite of myself - 82 pages of kill/no kill debate can be found at .

But it's there, and not just from the U.S. China is essentially displaying their middle finger to the entire planet, especially the other four nations Iisted above, not to mention the other 12 nations on their border and the several others yet in their vicinity. They probably don't really need yet another civil rights problem, but who knows? Maybe their next trick after the Magic Virus was to produce a yeren in order to help get rid of the Orange Guy.......but they didn't need to let that trick pony out of the barn, did they? Now they have an ally as a puppet.

I wonder how you'd feel if you were to see one Norse, making you a knower, and then getting asked the question about them utilizing residential type areas with big populations such as areas of Cook County Il (Chicagoland) and Westmoreland County PA (East Pittsburgh Suburbs) ? I think they can and do inhabit areas that would blow our minds if we legitimately knew they were in x and y area, personally. How they do it, i have no idea, and i don't think they're necessarily there full time neither but there's a ridiculous number of reports from largely populated areas of North America and if you're a knower, then it changes the entire mentality about what they do and where they do it. Food for thought anyway.

I have listened to both of the "Sierra Sounds " cds many times. And we're talking probably 100 times each. What's fascinating to me is, at least in my opinion, those sounds would be impossible to fake. First and foremost, the vocalizations run the gamut of speech patterns and inflections. In the various recordings, the vocalizations contain phonemes, laughter, elements of exasperation, and the fact that there are at least 4 different sources of the vocalizations as well. You can clearly discern a very large, deep voice. A very feminine high pitched voice, and occasionally a very small voice. There is a part in the recordings where one of the hunters is mimicking one of the squatches. The squatch would whistle, or make some kind of vocalization, and the hunter would try to mimic it. At one point, clear as a bell, you can hear the squatch laughing at the hunter. The sounds were studied in the late 70's. The results were: there were at least 4 different subjects making the vocalizations. According to their findings, the deepest voice had a vocal tract of someone/something that was extraordinarily tall. I want to say they put the subject at around 8 ft. Also, they determined the whistles were made with the vocal chords, and not the pursing of lips (as humans do). The hunters believed the group consisted of "The Old Man", the deepest voice and probably the father. A female, the high pitched, feminine voice, and 2 younger ones. The first set of recordings were made in 1972. Those recordings were much more hostile sounding, and very rapid fire chimp like articulations. The second set of recording were made 2 years later in 1974, and the vocalizations were much slower, and had the sound of some sort of language. Also, the squatch in the first set of recordings was the "Old Man" in the second set of recordings. They believe the "Old Man" came back, with his family, and deliberately slowed down their vocalizations in an attempt to communicate in 1974. Look for interviews with R. Scott Nelson on this subject. In the late 2000's, his son was doing a book report on Bigfoot for school. They did a web search and came across snippets of the Sierra Sounds. Mr. Nelson is a retired Naval crypto linguist. He was trained to find coded messages in any kind of audio correspondence. Language played backwards, foreign languages played backwards, etc. He immediately identified the vocalizations as "Language as we define it". He obtained the original recordings from Ron Morehead, and had the necessary equipment to eliminate all the background noise, clean up the audio, etc. etc. Mr. Nelson said of the recordings, that again there were at least 4 different subjects, and in many instances they are talking over each other. They most definitely are speaking some kind of language as we define it. There were repeated phrases, and that they might even have names for one another. He's actually studied other recordings from various parts of the U.S., and found similarities in them. In one interview i heard, Mr. Nelson sent the recordings to a colleague in Japan that specialized in ancient Japanese dialects. His colleague contacted him and thought it was a very elaborate joke. When Mr. Nelson asked why, colleague responded with '" There are small bits of a Japanese dialect that no one has used in centuries in these recordings." Maybe the Samurai Chatter, as we call it, is just that. If you have not heard these, they are very much worth listening to. There's actually lots of other interesting things about the vocalizations, but this kind of touches on the high points.

*shrug* what does it matter if some dudes want to film their trip looking for Bigfoot and try to make a little money? If you don't want to watch it, no one is going to force you to. I don't have a problem with people making money off of Bigfoot. I DO have a problem with people lying to make money. I would much rather pay a couple bucks to watch an honest documentary rather than watch a "free" TV show that is primarily drama for the camera and false pretenses.

I do agree with your assessment. The project caught my eye when watching the show because I specialize in UAVs and VTOLs, now only as a hobby. Back around the same time frame of 2015, we used drones (hexacopters and octocopters) with expensive multispectral cameras for checking agriculture, algae, and various inspections like rooftops and electric utility lines. Although the equipment was owned by a local college, I still have several of my own drones including a large DJI S900 hexacopter. In the 5 year span to 2020, the technology has changed so fast that it was difficult (and expensive) to keep up even when you were in that industry. My first concern when seeing the Falcon Project was that it would never work on windy days. We have a similar issue when flying VTOLs that are part copter and part plane. A large blimp-like aircraft like the Falcon would get blown away with only small fans to control it. Next, I saw that the project looked like it just stopped in its tracks. The Web site hasn't been updated since its inception and I can only find dated articles on it...much like your 2015 article. Yet, someone seems to be paying for the domain name (I also have my own) and host area to keep the files. More recently, there have been suggestions of using a Parrot - ANAFI Thermal Drone for searching the surrounding woods. At only $1900, perhaps some field researchers could use it on a calm day. Much more capable, and expensive, solutions exist but it is still unknown what these creatures would do if they heard the whine of a drone overhead. Cheers!

UH HUH sure you have, I believe everything I read on the internet.