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Most of my field trips tend to be work related, but at least it takes me to some pretty cool and occasionally remote locations in northern BC. This is between Bob Quinn and Bell 2, BC, roughly 100 miles due east of Wrangell, AK. So many bears here, typically seeing 7-10 black bears a day and a handful of grizzlies over the shift. Closest reported sighting to here is this - from 2 years ago and about 100 miles south: https://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=65630 Very few people in this country and most places on the map aren't even towns, just gas stations/camps or lodges.

In house private security team. Costs about $5/day in provisions plus the occasional destroyed shoe or under garment when bored.

"Our ranks?" I have no connection to the speaker who was interrupted and needlessly publicly embarrassed - nor a connection to mindspeak. The fact is though, anyone who heckles does not deserve praise. That paints Dahinden as arrogant and opinionated, regardless of who the speaker is. "Hey everyone, look, this guy's not one of us." How lame and infantile. I would have been the guy removing him from the premises with him in a nasty headlock. If you can't handle hearing alternate views, take the opportunity to find something else to do. Was it a misfire on the schedule? Probably what are you gonna do. Life is imperfect. Dahinden-ites should have some respect for people, especially when you have nothing to show for your own efforts. Dahinden was an amusing character sometimes, but far from a standout researcher. He's had nothing except for his mouth which serves to divide people's views, even today.

I'm curious to find out what others do when it comes to camp security. How do you keep your camp safe and protect yourself from intruders albeit man or beast? My approach has evolved over the years and I always welcome input and ideas with open arms. Camp Location - The two areas I go have lots of ponds so my camp is generally on or near water. The locations are sufficently away from humanity and accessible only by backpacking in a good distance that I don't ever expect to have anyone come strolling nearby. Most times I camp away from the water but will be close enough to exit into the water if need be. I will have a fire near the water as an enticement and to let a sasquatch know of my presence. Protection - I am armed when I enter the woods. I'll usually, but not always, carry bear spray and also wear a neck knife whenever I enter the woods. The knife is used for bushcraft purposes. Awareness - I'm always quiet, on guard, and listening. Sometimes, just sitting and carefully listening for periods of time can be instructive. I'm also vigilant to inspect the area around camp by looking at grasses, moss, ferns, branches, and vegetation for prints or disturbances to see if something has been in my area recently. I canvas the camp and nearby area each day I'm there. I want to know if something/someone knows I'm there. Detection - Technology has helped immensely. Nowadays, I always have my thermal imager. It helps at night to see things before they reach my camp. Was that crunching noise a deer, bear, or raccoon? It will identify that so you know what you're dealing with. I also use personal sound alarms and fishing line attached to them acting as trip wires near vulnerable areas. If something comes through, they'll unknowingly tug on the fishing line which will set off the 130db alarms. I've pondered using IR detectors with lights as another means of camp security to detect anything nearby. Visibility - There are several schools of thought. I subscribe to being less visible and not easily seen. My tent is muted in color as is my clothing although I generally don't wear camo. I don't keep my camp nor tent lighted and only use enough lumens from flashlights to accomplish the task at hand. Sound - I'm cognizant to be quiet as a church mouse when at camp or moving about in the woods so I do not give away my location. I think my hearing is pretty good as I am almost always the one who says, "Did you hear that?". Sounds amplifiers, both in-ear and external, are something I have not yet invested in but plan to do so. If you can hear something coming, you have another arrow in the quiver. The general security rules above are obviously violated when I make vocalizations, wood knocks, or other sounds and when using lights or other visual displays as a means to attract a sasquatch. My only stone-throwing incident occurred when a friend brought his backpacking guitar and was playing it. Those are a few general thoughts about camp security and I welcome other ideas or suggestions.

Thats it. I submitted my bone to that study.

Maybe I missed it among your many posts but I'd be curious who you are speaking with at any F&W. Are you calling higher ups on their private mobile? Which of the many contact pathways are you accessing? Do you talk to a generalist? Do you really think your inquiry will be passed on to people in the know? Think about it. Guy walks in the front door or calls, fights through the phone tree, civic employee routes inquiry. Even if you got someone on the line that matters (use Danny Perez's phone call ambush of Lyle Laverty as a standard), what do you think the response will be? Full disclosure? Or maybe the people in F&W don't know about BF either and are doing other jobs that do matter to their agency. Right?

I'm pretty sick and tired of government personnel either lying to me or blowing condescending smoke up my pants. It's a complete waste of time.

Ah. Gotcha. That’s the thing…infrasound can cause nausea and feelings of dread or even pain…but nothing has been proven about it causing hallucinations. The guy who originally floated the idea saw a ghost out of the corner of his eye…and latched onto the idea that was a hallucination caused by infrasound. It might have been true, but no one has been able to replicate it.

Your like a kid throwing a temper tantrum. It’s gets old after awhile. I said everyone should play to their strengths. So you knock on bureaucrats doors. Woolly can dig for bones. I will go hunt. Someone else can go collect hair samples. Whatever. As usual it’s your way or the Highway. Except your Highway blows with the wind. Let me know where to send my eDNA samples Hiflier......🙄

Probably because they have their idea on solving the problem just like you do. So if they are to hunt and write letters to the govt are you writing letters and hunting them? No one here is obligated to do it your way. This is a hobby for most so they are free to enjoy their hobby how they choose. Constant berating by you is unnecessary.

They are not directly connected, but share a few similarities… A fringe topic that has been relegated joke status and public ridicule. A phenomenon that has been soundly declared as ‘impossible’ by the scientific community…until it wasn’t. Turns out that what was commonly accepted as being the domain of charlatans, liars, and frauds ended up being true…merely covered up. The hardcore skeptics, whose very identities are wrapped up in their skepticism, are still making videos talking about weather balloons and strange atmospheric conditions…cherry-picking and ignoring the evidence. The UAP topic has revealed that the world is not so mundane as we were lead to believe…that the official account of ‘that’s impossible’ is often wrong and self serving. We are supposed to think that this applies only to UAPs and not anomalies on the ground? We honestly don’t know what is possible or impossible anymore.

This is concerning UAPs, but when Sam Harris is saying things like this…then obviously there is a really good chance the universe is a lot weirder than science was originally capable of admitting. “Whatever is true ultimately should be captivating, right? What’s more captivating than whatever is real? Because … again, we’re just climbing out of the darkness in terms of our understanding of what the hell’s going on, and there’s no telling what spooky things may in fact be true.” “what is being promised here is a disclosure that is frankly, either the most alarming or the most interesting thing in the world, depending on how you take it, but it’s not a representation of the facts that will give scientific skeptics any comfort, and that’s just … we’re faced with the prospect of having to apologize to the people we’ve been laughing at for the last fifty years who have been alleging that they’ve been abducted or that cattle have been anally probed, pick your punch line.”

Oh, I don't know if it will "be his fault", but if he's wearing a fur suit in the woods trying to get people to think that he's a Bigfoot, he's one incredibly stupid person. I've been shot two different times in hunting accidents, and while I wasn't wearing hunter orange either time (I never do), I wasn't trying to act like a Bigfoot, either. An accidental shooting hurts just as much as an intentional shooting. The first big game animal I killed in Alaska was a wolf, and I regretted that shot immediately after standing over the dead animal. A local trapper bought the carcass from me the next day, and that made me feel even worse about it.......like an assassin. Since that day, I've been treated to several close encounters with wolves that remain among my most treasured outdoor experiences. I have a very deep understanding now about how wolves became the very first animal domesticated by man. I guess you can say that I "mindspeak" with them. This line of experience with wolves brought me new understanding of William Roe's words about his encounter with a sasquatch. I could kill anything if given documented orders or a permit by government, because the morality of the killing has been assumed by an appropriate authority, but I'll pass on taking that authority myself.

Wooly, I understand that your world view excludes anything unprovable by current scientific methods and can respect that’s where you are with things but what you are saying here comes across as arrogance. I’m sure there are plenty of instances of phenomena that aptly fit your description above but to toss out all anomalous experience is hubris. Our understanding of the world doesn’t cease to expand, why not allow room for it to do so? That is science ain’t it? We learn by investigating what is presented. Imagine what our understanding will look like in a thousand years (if our idiocy hasn’t done us all in). We’ve a lot to learn, we’ll get further along with an open mind, not by forcing facts to fit within present levels of knowledge. I was in your camp, I did my share of scoffing. Though I’d done a few foolish things in my life, you’d be hard pressed to find someone, myself included who considers me irrational. I’ve had a SINGLE, isolated experience of what you term woo, directly after the real world physical event of a rock being thrown. It got me thinking differently and paying closer attention to the reports. There are enough credible people claiming to have experienced something odd to deem them all illusory. Though many events are coincident, who knows if it has anything to do with BF. Discounting these reports is not the way to go forward and is simply a sign of confirmation bias. I'm always amazed at how unscientific scientism can be. It really resembles a faith based cult when it appears with it's magical powers of proving negatives. If you have an agenda to get the subject considered seriously by the scientific community and you feel certain claims should be withheld in the effort, that is one thing but deriding the experience of others just becomes divisive and is pointless. That agenda probably won't happen on BFF turf anyway and discussion here is probably not the milestone which science will judge worthiness of pursuit.

Rene Dahinden was an excellent researcher and a pillar of the Bigfoot Community. His no nonsense, down to earth approach to Sasquatch research should be emulated by Bigfoot researchers. The fact that he called out woo for what it is, irrational foolishness, only serves to heighten my admiration for the man. Without Rene Dahinden, there would be no Bigfoot research. Dahinden was investigating Bigfoot before the name "Bigfoot" existed, and when a young journalist by the name of John Green was still a skeptic.

"Proof" is the realm of "science", and that means that those phenomena that can't be physically proven will remain in another realm. The Force is not with you.........😄

Envisioning you in a loin cloth Huntster has ruined my appetite fer at least 2 days..... 😉

Exactly. Some woods hippy trying to commune with one using crystals might stumble across a dead one out there one day. Once a body is brought in and official recognition takes place, then the necessary resources could be brought to bear to answer all of our questions.

Just a general statement I’m not singling anyone out. We all want answers. We disagree about how to get them. No one is right or wrong. Just stick with your gut and it will lead you to your strengths. If we all keep chipping away. Maybe there will be a break through. It may even come from left field.

Same can be said about grabbing a rifle and getting into the woods....it is what it is.

I know many trophy hunters, a few of whom have multiple trophy rooms filled to the brim with dead animals. Not only are there no great ape trophies, but I've never heard of such a hunter with such a trophy. Of the famous trophy hunters of the past century or so, I don't believe such a trophy exists. In fact, there might be more dead human trophies (scalps, shrunken heads, skulls, etc) than ape trophies, and of the ape "trophies", they are almost exclusively collected by "scientists", not "trophy hunters". The current killers of gorillas are subsistence hunters, not trophy hunters. The "trophy hunter" threat is a straw man. An excuse. A fantasy.

Sometimes you need a bit of luck to give skill a chance, other times you need skill to give luck a chance. They're not mutually exclusive. The only advice I'd offer anyone is to be the bait ... be interesting rather than trying to be sneaky. The first most of us can manage, the latter .. we'd be fooling ourselves. Whatever happens or doesn't, enjoy the camping. It's a great excuse to eat the stuff we're not supposed to have at home. MIB

Went out yesterday in one of my areas of interest. It has rained a fair amount lately including early yesterday morning when I entered the woods. The mosquitoes were swarming and nearly impossible not to be ravaged by them. The rain caused creeks and bogs to expand providing a good opportunity to look for prints. No luck but tomorrow is another day.

That's awesome! Thank you. The Silverback Sasquatch looks very impressive. Too bad he was retired. The Skookum will likely be my next purchase.

Okay. We don't have to do anything. We can all just wait for someone to shoot one that looks too Human to shoot. Much easier

No, WB, we're gonna all wait until someone shoots one, even if it DOES look too Human. If it happens to be a man in a suit, well then......it's only a man in a suit. It'll be his fault for dressing up and trying to hoax some poor hunter. And eventually, one of them has to turn out to be the real thing. Maybe the second one, or the tenth or the fiftieth. But DANG IT! One of 'em has to eventually be a Sasquatch.

Okay, but just don't keep on berating me either, Twist. Because that's what you are doing. And yes, to be clear, I am hunting them, too, but not with a gun. Even a photographer can "hunt" them for the purposes of shooting a photo. That's in the book, too, just in case you weren't aware. And lose the "your way" crap. I get pretty sick of reading that old oss that way.clap trap. You may not think it's an ignorant slant, but it comes across that way.