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I just read an article out of the UK from last March, 2021 about a new method for collecting DNA samples. Air. No joke: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6553/376 So....I'm curious....IF one had the choice of which DNA sampling method to deploy which would it be? Snow, soil, water, or air? Don't know about air, but I gather that soil is the more expensive of the bunch with snow or water being about the same. It also comes down to cost of sampling materials, too. Snow may be more expensive than water if samples need to be transported, or stored outside of a lab and need to be in their maintain frozen state.

You are certain that Bart's thermal is Justin taking a leak? That wouldn't even qualify for a newbie commenter on FB. Is that seriously the best you can do? Of course you wouldn't have something to offer the thread that is legit. It's just more of your trolling. Carry on lamer.

You know that's not true. All thermals are inconclusive in the same way. It's not evidence. It's mildly interesting but goes nowhere. In this case, it's the only follow up investigation that shows there could be BFs in the area. If you don't want to acknowledge it, that's your biz but your counter is lame.

This is a great topic, I would like to point out that we do have four or five public thermal videos but not at the desired resolution. I am aware of two other videos that are fairly clear but not published. 1 The Brown Footage of WA. 2 The Brandenburg Footage of NM. 3 The Brown Footage of FL. 4 The Serrias Footage of CA. 5 The Squeaky Footage of NC I feel that the answer as to why we dont have that clear unambiguous thermal footage is primarily due to three reasons. Most sasquatch " researchers " do not have thermal cameras as most are not serious about field work and frankly spend maybe four weekends a year camping close to a few report locations. Most of these folks do not even break from a road or trail, they are glued to familar paths and do not bushwack. Thermal imagers have only in the last two or three years achieved even basic resolution standards ( 640x480 ) and cost about 4000$ on average. I will also say ( in my opinion ) that there simpley very few of these creatures out there. I look into reports on a daily basis and maybe 5 -10 % within the internal database are legitimate. I understand that people do not like to hear it but we have nothing that suggests they are doing great as a species or that we are even available/prepared enough as " researchers " to capture high quality video.

Well, when we were looking at the two looking back at us... they didn't realize that we could see them UNTIL NorthWind pointed at them. THEN the sank down into the salal bushes and brush and disappeared. They UNDERSTOOD that we could see them. There's no other way to interpret their actions. We returned a couple of weeks ago to the same place. We got multiple, clear knocks BUT NOT ONCE did we catch anything on the 2 FLIR's, and we were raising them and searching randomly for several hours. IF they were there, they understood what the FLIR's did. I truly think tech will make a difference. I did for us. We NEVER would have known that they were standing there, 50 yards from us, if we hadn't had the tech. While the video isn't great, the initial sighting that I had before we began recording, when I was leaning on the truck door, very steady, was quite clear and made obvious immediately what was out there in the dark watching us. And thank you all for the FLIR, again! It's a great piece of tech and peace of mind.

One does not want to 'sneak up' on a Sasquatch. No surprises. Most urban types can not afford a horse(s). Forest jurisdictions have restrictions about using vehicles, horses and pack animals. Some areas are not horse friendly. There is a location ( a ranch ) in Washington State with unverified reports that women on horses are frequently watched by Sasquatch. The horse comments bring up the Henry Weinhard beer ad from the 1980's where the seer in the saloon of the 1880's states that in a hundred years, only women and little girls will ride horses. True.

I think that is the best answer we have. We truly don't know what triggers a visit vs what prevents one. When we do a particular thing, we actually do quite a number of other things with it. We don't know that it was the thing we focused on doing rather than one of those side things, seemingly irrelevant things, that was the actual difference maker. We may also do the thing that really mattered in some other context and get results but not know why. We have relatively little data to draw from and we're making some big leaps .. unwarranted leaps .. based on that data. ... IMHO of course! I think setting up camp in the hottest spot we know gives us the best chance of other things going right ... if it's as good a spot as we think it is. MIB

Hello all, I'm a retired RV'er and have been following a family of Bigfoot in a wilderness area of NW Wyoming since late 2019. There is an alpha male, 2 females and 3 offspring (2 are maybe 2 yr old, the other is approximately 10 yr oldI look forward to sharing my story and to hear your thoughts and opinions. Ernie J.

Welcome , snowman4 !

But...but...I don't want to go on vacation. I like this place. Oh wait! That wasn't me you were referring to...Never mind...forget what I said...

Semantics .. shades of gray. I think we can attract their attention, lure in that sense, but they make a conscious choice about how, and whether, to react. When it comes to bigfoot, we compel nothing. It is safer for us that way. Critters that have been lured in can become aggressive when they find themselves frustrated, surprised, etc unable to actually obtain the bait that drew them in. I don't want to deal with that especially in the context of bigfoot. MIB

Anything with "Homo" as it's genus is considered Human by anthropologists.

Good solid standard V8. Had one in a '74 3/4 ton PU back when you could sit in the engine well to do work. Went home for lunch one cold Autumn day and back out for four more hours. Got home and heard a "meow" and lifted the hood only to find one of my cats had evidently gotten inside next to the radiator for warmth. It was so terrified when I started the engine and went back to work that it stayed where it was until I got back home and heard it cry out. I reached in to rescued her and it was like picking up a small bowling ball. All her muscles were locked up tight. Lucky she didn't panic and end up in a belt which is what happens to some.

It's true, I meant it in a condescending manner. But not as name calling, more as a definition of the individual.

I'm positive I'm correct, call it what will, believe what you want, you will eventually realize I'm always right ......carry on!!

It is Bart......pretty sure he caught a bird/large bug flying by (I know it was at night} the figure was most likely Justin getting up to take a piss, so yes critters and people move around at night.

Like I write, it's a matter of which scientists discuss it, and which scientists ignore it. The key now is identifying why it is so completely ignored by the scientists who count the most; those responsible for the management of our collective natural resources. Sasquatches being primates does not require their biologic structure to exactly match that of other primates, nor do North American predators negate the potential existence of these creatures. I cannot accept your claim that "a black bear would easily kill a Sasquatch", and certainly can't accept your reasoning for such a statement based upon your conjecture on the panniculus carnosus of a creature which has not yet been physically examined. I have extensive personal experience with black bears and their potential prey. Black bears here in Alaska almost never prey in adult anythings here larger than themselves including caribou and moose. Injured, sick, and calf ungulates (or sasquatches)? You bet. Even cub bears? No doubt. Cow caribou? If they can catch one (doubtful, especially since they inhabit different environments). Cow moose? No way, Dude, especially if she's in knee deep water. She'll enthusiastically kill that bear. This is well established science. I've seen these things myself. Mature black bear boars are dangerous predators. I've been tested by one myself. That bear is lucky I didn't kill him. I should have. But he wasn't after me. He wanted my dog. I can see a boar black bear taki g an unprotected sasquatch youth, but not a healthy, mature sasquatch weighing 400-800 lbs. Sorry. Ain't happening. And those reasons are exactly what I pointed out above; age, injury, and illness. Leopards will prey on female and young gorillas, but will think twice about attacking a healthy, mature silverback. Don't make me dig up references. If I do, I'll be unhappy. I'm getting busy around here. I strongly agree with you that sasquatches are physically, mentally, and intellectually overestimated. Their physical strength in particular tends to be wildly overestimated. But I'm quite certain that they're very strong physically, but if a 225 grain Swift A-Frame in 338 WinMag @ 2850 fps was used on one, it would work just as well as it would on a 1200 lb coastal brown bear. I have personally seen a boar grizzly bear suddenly turn, bolt, and run like Hell as if Satan himself just popped up in front of him. But it wasn't Satan. It was me. The bear caught my scent, and took off like he was on fire. In fact, I've seen that more than once. The first time was one of my most memorable wilderness experiences. And a good number of scientists disagree with you. I like this particular quote from one of the rare few who actually studied the film and documented his analysis (Dr. D.W. Grieve, an anatomist with expertise in human biomechanics at the University of London Royal Free Medical School: http://www.bigfoot-lives.com/html/report_on_the_film_of_a_suppos.html