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People keep saying how close Chimps are to Humans and for this Forum it's time to set the scientific record straight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_the_One_Percent So the truth is, there's a lot more genetic room for Sasquatch DNA than folks realize.

I asked: i I got no thought out answer, so I looked into it myself. I didn't have to look far: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_child The first eye opener for me was the sheer number of documented cases, all relatively recent (as well as famous historical cases), and even catagorized by the wild animal species that raised the child; wolves, dogs, monkeys, even ostriches. Clearly, this happens often. These cases are just the survivors, and just the survivors that end up caught. Secondly, and even being the father of a son born with a significant developmental disability, fairly well educated as a parent in intellectual disabilities, and the husband of a special ed teacher, I had no idea that a child that is not taught to speak by age five is not likely to ever speak later in life, even with effort to teach them. This goes along with other basic human development. In short, significant developmental disabilities can be manufactured through pure neglect in a child's early years. I simply had no clue. Thirdly, feats like running on all fours as fast as a man can run bipedally can be learned at an early age if raised by dogs. This goes a long way in explaining Zana's ability to swim a swollen, freezing river, run as fast as. horse, lift great weight, etc. In short, having learned this incredible information, I can easily accept what Dr. Margaryan did not theorize or present as a liklihood: Zana was abandoned in the wild by her African slave parents as a freak when she was born huge and covered with hair, and she was captured later as an adult feral human. She had developed great strength and fully acclimated to the cold. Her developmental disabilities were likely due to no human nurturing as a baby, and the great strength she developed was accented by her great size acquired genetically. This epiphany is profound for me. It helps answer one significant problem within the overall sasquatch phenomenon: If all or a significant number of wildman reports, legends, and oral traditions are actually feral Homo sapiens, the problem of non-viable reproduction goes away. However, if not all such reports of wildmen are feral Homo sapiens, then the number of non-Homo sapiens goes down, making viable reproduction an even bigger problem than originally thought. Another thought was that if most or all if these reports of wildmen are feral humans, doesn't that ethically elevate the responsibility of government and society to respond? Dr. Margaryan felt it necessary to add a section on the ethics regarding Zana's basic human rights. What about the humanity of all feral humans? Another thought that came to me was that if basic speech can be lost for a lifetime through the neglect of nurturing and education, so can human spirituality and sentient thought. I have a lot more reading to do on feral humans, including Tirademan's collection of media reports over the decades in North America. I'm still having a tough time accepting the premise that this female is Homo sapien, even though Zana's description comes very close to what we see in this image. 7A6FEB1C-2C4D-4915-875D-3F4195DF369A.jp2

I don't wish to derail this thread but the bottom line is that in mtDNA there a 1,600 base pair difference between us and Chimps. Between us and Denisovan the difference is about 600 base pairs, for us and Neanderthal- around 200. So that would leave about a thousand base pairs or so between Denisovan and Chimps. Plenty of room to plop a hairy hominid into the evolutionary primate line.

Actually, I found not a single one answered. You did acknowledge that those with dogmatic views could win or lose, but you didn't suggest who those might be........or not be.

I thought the report was rather weak with the line regarding hypertrichosis and no mention of Zana's other features. I'll repeat my reply to Twist: I wasn't sure. That's why I asked. A well thought out opinion on all wild man reports being people suffering from hypertrichosis isn't likely to be published by a "scientist", but it's going to be a pretty standard escape clause in every case like this that comes along. Let's face it: if a sasquatch (almas, yeti, et al) report cannot possibly be a mistaken bear sighting, it will be a human with hypertrichosis until proven otherwise, even if said hirstute bipedal creature can leap tall buildings, swim flood stage frozen rivers, sleep outside in sub-zero temps without bedding, and carry great weights with one hand. Thank you for that information, and I apologize for coming on strong. That's simply how I am. I guess I'm like Zana, but with just a slight case of hypertrichosis. I swim underwater in frozen lakes, am (somewhat) bullet proof, and am almost as strong as Zana, but have great suspicion of people from the International Skeptics Forum, formerly known as JREF. I will review the forum archives to review your history. Your post, without much comment, was suspicious to me. Yes, the Zana story is an incredible one, even if she was herself or was a descendant of African slaves. If she was simply a feral human "with issues" (as Twist tried to pass), the concept still poses problems. And since East African slavery in that part of the world goes back at least a thousand years, even this DNA review leaves open the possibility of a repressed human population going feral by necessity, even if they're not hybrid with ancient hominid species. In fact, a population of humans hiding from other humans for so many generations as to begin exhibiting the kinds of differences that Zana showed is even more remarkable (and believable) than a surviving ancient hominid or a hybrid sapien/hominid. And, again, it intensifies the ethical side of this entire phenomenon.

Is what I quoted supposed to be the end of the story for me? Just thought it was an interesting section in the report. I'll second what @Twist said... Was there something to be won or lost here? Well... What if all "wild man" reports do indicate your synopsis? I haven't seen or read anything to support an opinion. What was so mysterious about my quoting from an article that another member posted? Are 5 posts an issue? Should have I posted in many other threads and pad my count before posting in this thread? Is there some hierarchy that I missed in the newb FAQ? Is there something wrong with being a previous participant? I'm using the same user name, go back in the old database and check it out. My posts were pretty mellow back then too. Zana's story is an interesting one and we'll never know the true story 100% for sure unless until time travel is a thing. Or is it a thing, did I miss that in the newbie FAQ too?

You're out, all right, and was out as soon as you started. A "normal" human? Sure. Nothing but semantics. All between the lines. Did you win, Twist? And anything that gets my goat is stealing, and I'll deal with that aggressively. Goats taste great, and I'm not sharing mine. Adios, jugadora.

It is the only plausible scenario that explains the repetitive results...how many DNA samples could you reasonably expect to be "contaminated" with H. sapien DNA? Okay, more than one is likely, several is possible, but it seems like we are seeing this EVERY time results are published. I've suggested before...the lab reaches a point where they are satisfied the sequence contains DNA markers that agree with known human sequences and they shut it down, write it up as "contaminated" and move on. Unless and until those samples are fully sequenced and a library of them is kept for cross referencing, we may continue to overlook subtle variations in the genome that indicate a Sasquatch. This, of course, means time and money. Moreover, although the behaviors of Sasquatch can be viewed as ape-like, so can many of ours, if we are truthful about it...they just exist within a framework of a hyper-socialized, densely populated and technologically saturated environment. If you also believe the close-up observations and "gut" feelings of those who have lived in close proximity to BF, almost unanimously they come down on the side of "people". These observations count.

Good luck with your games. The DNA study says she is of modern decent and a normal human. Argue semantics, read between the lines…..whatever gets your goat. I’m out.