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From Bill Munns: Submerging a fur suit in water is a recipe for disaster. It will soak up water better than a sponge and probably weigh 50 or more pounds heavier than dry. And if you needed to dry it out, it would likely take all day, unless several people blowdry it for hours. When I did the Swamp Thing movie, **** Durock (playing Swamp Thing) went into the water many times and the suit soaked up water galore. My crew of three would spend hours after work trying to dry the suit out. And when waterlogged, the weight of the suit really dragged the stuntman down in any movement. While that was a foam latex suit, a fur suit would do the same, in terms of water retention. All's well with me. Hope the same for you. Bill ============================= So? The hoax part of this film looks pretty nil as a suit. At the start of the film I can only see the creatures back line. It is submerged. Could it be CGI? Or is it legit?

Thanks for sharing! We don’t see everyday a Bigfoot submerged in water and then getting up and wading around in the river. The video is pretty far away and not of good quality. I would be curious to know from people like Bill Munns if modern hair stretchy fabric would stand up to this type of abuse. Or if it would take on a bunch of water and turn into a 200 lbs diaper when the hoaxer stood up out of the water. As with all videos it’s inconclusive. But if it’s real? As a pro kill proponent a Bigfoot choosing to go fishing in broad day light on a wide river delta gives me hope….. that would be a chip shot IF a person felt good about not being hoaxed. Cervelo would really really worry about that!😉

What are your thoughts on this new video sent to him? The thing that bugs me about all of these types of videos is why do they cut out at the part where it would be walking . If it's legit just keep filming .

Cliff is a natural teacher. He's very good at what he does. Is he infallible? No, of course not. But he's giving solid information in a fast-paced, logically ordered presentation. Kudos to him!

When I mentioned Broadwater Co., Montana, I was referring to BFRO report #37974. It's been on here before. It's a pretty compelling report. A brief synopsis: an elk hunter was in an area where he had hunted numerous times before and never saw another hunter. He came across a trackway that was 15 miles from the nearest drivable road, on the side of a mountain, Barefoot prints that appeared to be 6-7 inches longer than his 12" boots and twice as wide as their 4" width; it was thought snow melt may have accounted for a little of the length and width, estimated 5ft. step length, clean with no drag marks, curving uphill, he had to leap to match the estimated 5ft. step. He thought it very unlikely they were from another hunter, considering how remote and rugged the area was. MIB, your very last point was a good one. If the elk hunter in this report had not been on the mountain at that time, the trackway he came across would very likely have never been discovered by anyone else and would have simply disappeared in time.