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Moonless night and I saw unmistakable green and sometimes sparkly green eyeglow from 25 ft. (was totally dark adapted too in expectation of a possible encournter), , moreover, as the subject turned head on shoulders or rotated shoulders with head the glow could be seen from an angle as well as head-on. Other elements of that particular sighting and visual phenomenon observed probably not cogent for this thread or discussion herein but suffice it to say they can generate light from eye structures whatever the color and without ambient light sources available for reflectivity or red reflex retinal explanations. Animal, vegetable or mineral it is what I unmistakably witnessed.

Like Northwind says, I've talked to too many people who describe projecting beams from the eyes, not mere reflection. I've seen a couple pictures which seemingly back this up. So while I agree that it may be a different kettle, I don't think you can truly address what is happening without addressing both eyeshine (reflection) and eyeglow (generation of light). Trying to discuss one without the other is like trying to answer the question of "how long 'til we get there" without addressing whether we're even pointing in the right direction, never mind our ground speed. I'll say up front that I've never seen either one. There is, however, SOMETHING "funny" going on regarding sasquatch night vision. The night that son of a gun came into my camp back in 2011 it was moving fairly fast .. slowly spaced steps but making 10-12 mph meaning long long steps, coming through the trees, from the sound of it weaving left and right to go around the trunks, meaning it knew where those trunks were, and to my eye it was black as the inside of a boot in a closed closet. We were in the bottom of a high valley, under fairly heavy trees, with at least 50% of the sky covered with thunder clouds. I could see a star or two, but no way to see anything at ground level by that limited light. But that guy .. he could see. If he couldn't, he'd have stepped on me, as it was, he stopped about 5 feet from where I was laying in my sleeping bag. I sorta thought he left 'cause time passed and there were no sound, but after a few minutes he started messin' with me. I was the test subject, not him, that night. Odd feeling. I can't tell you if he was seeing IR, UV, or what, but he was "seeing" and it was outside the spectrum my eyes detect. It is a serious puzzle. MIB

What I saw were not eyes reflecting red, but glowing red. Unless a moon just rising could cause reflection. On the topic of color - bird's feathers show the effect of carotenoids in their diet. For instance, around here male house finches can look from dark red to yellow - and all in between - depending on the berries, primarily, that they consume. Which depends on season and availability. Other things cause darker or lighter beaks, and dark feathers, that change seasonally. Maybe the bigfoot I saw ate a whole bunch of dried berries.

Now that the floods are drained and some of the logging roads reopened to the public, I got out in the woods for a few hours today. Not a Squatchin' trip, just a run out to the Stave Lake mudflats to meet some 4x4 friends for a bonfire and BS session. It looked like every 'wheeler in the area had the same idea, but it was great to get out there anyway. Of course, when i went out yesterday to sweep the snow off the Hummer and check things out, the battery was completely flat, and wouldn't even jump from my little power booster, so I had to go get a new battery. The old one was a cheap no name that was in the truck when I bought the H3 15 months ago, and looked like it had been in there a long time. The only other problem was about a foot of door weather stripping was frozen to the driver's door sill, and pulled loose when I opened the door. Now I have to find the right glue for it, and a warm dry place to do the work.

Anyone feel like a bit (or a lot) of speculative Sasquatch science? Sasquatch night ops is a pretty interesting rabbit hole that can cover many things such as night vision, possible infrared capabilities, eye shine colors, and general navigation with respect to moon phases. Much has been discussed over the years about any one of these elements but do those different elements add up in any way to gain any scientific insights that may nail down how the creatures manages to maneuver at night? Or do things in the dark woods like find rocks or a stick and tree to do some tree knocking for instance? So far folks have talked about such capabilities as single subjects but, if taken together, do all of those discussions shed any light on the Sasquatch's ability, if it's so much like us and the other Great Apes, to do what it does and how? For myself, I don't think any one feature (NV, infrared, etc.) can answer the question as well as finding some common kind of ground that links the various vision advantages together that allow the Sasquatch to maneuver in what we may see as an impossible task for us without our artificial lights or other devices. All thoughts and inputs are welcome. In the end we may end up with something that isn't so speculative?

And I will also respectfully disagree. You don't have a basis other than your pre-existing assumptions for inclusion or elimination. That will never gain you anything you don't already assume you know. Gotta step back far enough to see what might also be relevant before you can learn anything you don't already know. Bottom line .. if the eyes do indeed produce some sort of glow which is not merely reflection, then you should be able to make some guesses about the sort of receptors needed to make use of that "glow." Overlooking that angle reduces your chances of arriving at any correct conclusions about the receptors. There is decent empirical evidence in the body of reports to suggest that they see a) deeper into infared, b) deeper into ultraviolet, and c) in color .. which generally are not found together .. than we do. It is very possible that a larger eye structure provides physical space for all of the specialized structures to exist simultaneously rather than selectively as our smaller eyes require. I suggest that projecting our limitations onto them, without considering the possibilities that larger eyes present, is .. naive. We don't have anything but our possibly flawed assumptions to back that choice up with. Since we are already confronted by things here that seem to defy expectations, further trapping ourselves within those expectations is not very insightful. MIB

Hi. Have never had a sighting, but first got interested in BF from watching In Search Of with Leonard Nimoy in the 1970's.

I have spoken with more than one witness who said the eyeshine was NOT from a reflection of other lights, but rather, it came from their eyes directly. One of those people said she saw it change from greenish to intense red when it got angry and bared its teeth at her. With that encounter, she was three feet away from its face in a window. Both of these people were very credible - the color changer witness particularly as she used to be involved in law enforcement. But both were very clear to me about the eyes. I have yet to see it, but it is interesting. I don't understand why it would be like this if it were true.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-simulated-neanderthal-behaviors-by-catching-birds-with-their-bare-hands-180978737/

Hiflier, the white hose is hooked up to a small diesel heater that's on the ground just out of the picture. The little girl was holding her hands right up to it for a while, to warm her cold little fingers.

Since our big encounter was at night. I'll comment. They are far superior to us in the night. We are opposites - we are day and they are night. Sure, some of us can pull all-nighters regularly, and some of them wander during the day. But, we seem to occupy opposite niches in some of the same territory. Probably not the answer you were looking for, but it's the one that comes to mind with only one cup of coffee in me.

Hi, I'm just interested in bigfoot because since I graduated college me and my better half had lots more time to be camping and such at the family lot of land. It's 12 acres connected to several hundred and since there's so much family history they don't really care to enforce property lines much because our friends our family. Well, I got recommended some encounter videos and I just heard the wildest stories which I find interesting, but as a scientist I obviously can't say much about it scientifically. As a person though they ring true enough to be on the look out so I'm here more to find out what's going on with BF than really try to prove he's real or not. I'm scientifically trained so I enjoy speculating about things like the cloaking, advanced eye shine (or whatever it is, red eyes), tree breaks and structures. I'm a novice though, that's all I know. The whistling really wigs me out, I swear on God and all that's holy I heard that one night and I'm just trying to be prepared from now on.

Tirademan's Historical Newspaper Archives is a place to look over 'old' sightings. I think Tirademan had about 10 pages posted posthumously.

One way to find out would be to go back and find out. One would just need to find the mine. There is allot of truth in this man's testimony of what he encountered. Yes, He had a chance to pull the trigger. But he held back. Since the creature he called "it" looked Human. There is not much of a defense argument if the creature does not physically attack you. So far this is what has been shown over and over by this creature. Even on camera by Patty. Sure we can look for a food resource to hunt one. But how will one explain their DNA? If they came back Human 99%, Chances are you will be going to jail. It might not matter if we have found a new species. The law might think differently. I am all in for killing one and that is only if it is a rogue creature. But there are some here where I live in Michigan that will not hunt these creatures. I agree. They need to be observed in the wild. It seems that Roe Like what he saw in this creature. It had attitude. I believe that Roe somehow showed it respect in his own way by grinning at it. In my own experience I felt the same way. You kind of have to give them respect. There are good hearts and then there are bad hearts. It seems that Roe was of a good heart. For this creature to turn it's back on this human. It must have known something about this man. To keep on walking without worry It had to have known more about this man. We should think very hard about taking a specimen and think more about observation.