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Forgot I posted in this thread! To answer a few questions: both times we were camping in the car but not in campgrounds. We pretty much always goes as far as possible on forest/logging roads and camp. However, the more impressive handprint occurred not too far from a campground. It could have been a person but they would have to be enormous and have muddy hands. The attached picture is that handprint. The tiny, clean spots below it are my fingerprints. I have pretty average sized hands. This print was found after my wife was touched by something through the car window the night before. Forgot to mention: the touching incident occurred on logging land near Yacolt, WA. The other handprint and mysterious sound happened waaay back on a forest road near Mt. Baker. The rock throwing happened on Quinault Ridge on the Olympic Peninsula. And the possible footprint was found at Squire's Lake near Alger, WA. I have my doubts about that one due to the popularity of the trail and it's proximity to to civilization.

Hi guys. New member here and have been highly obsessed with the bigfoot subject recently and have really gotten into the scientific research and personal accounts. My cousin had an encounter recently down around his home while out hiking in Southeast Ohio and the way he told it to me combined with some things that have happened to him and I down in that same area has made me highly interested in the topic. I've also gotten him and I into the Sasquatch Chronicles podcast with Wes Gerber and what a fantastic show! Just looking for good discussions and maybe some things I'm missing out on.

Hello. My name is Jeff and I am from Toronto, Canada. I became interested in the Bigfoot phenomenon back around 2000, long before YouTube, when I watched a Bigfoot documentary on TV and was taken about at how compelling it was. Since then I've read several books on the subject, by authors including John Green, Jeff Meldrum and David Daegling.

Sonny Vator is widely reported to be a hoaxer, so anything he posts needs heavy consideration before anyone takes it seriously... just my humble opinion.

This reminds me of when we were camping near the Alleghany National Forest... My wife and I, along with a second couple, were sharing a 3 room tent. About 20 minutes after we went to bed something began pushing on the outer wall of the tent. We looked outside and saw nothing. A few minutes later, it happened again and we unzipped the window flap and shined a flashlight around again... nothing. Unbelievablyit happened a third time, before things quieted down for the night. I can't say the experience was bigfoot related, but we didn't hear anything approaching or leaving. Whatever it was, it was silent and the whole experience was very odd all things considered.

Hello everyone. I am glad to be here. Never had a BF encounter but I am interested in this and always have been. I look forward to reading all your ideas and experiences.

Been fascinated with the big folk since I was a kid. Always interested in new info and sightings.

Doesn't even have to be crazy, simply being from a human culture different than your own. In a very real sense, the greater the similarity, the greater the chance for misunderstanding because it appears more reasonable to plug in your own assumptions / values where you have gaps in your understanding of their assumptions / values. Think of the troubles of the past when "modern, sophisticated" European humans encountered "primitive, unsophisticated" tribal people in remote places .. might wind up being worshiped as a god or might wind up in the stew pot .. or maybe both. Be wary of an invitation to dinner 'til you're sure whether you're a participant or the main course. Same thing for "people" out there who might be even more "primitive" yet. In a way, if they're "less than people" (animals), the results of a meeting might be less unpredictable than if they're truly "people". Dunno, just .. kicking around ideas. I think if we're out there looking for sasquatch, it pays to consider all of the potential angles and not get too caught up on any 'til we know more thus assume less. Everything from ape camp to Scott Carpenter's ideas .. even consider ThePhaige's posts. Final truth will probably not be any of those but may combine bits and pieces from all .. and others .. mixed in a totally unexpected way. MIB

What I took away from the Two Reasons without adding in any of the religious elements, is that 1) Killing you during an encounter is always on the menu. Maybe choice number 10 or option 45, but always there. Therefore, be careful. They are strong and wild and you do not know them. Treat them with the respect and caution you would any wild animal (or potentially crazy human). And 2) They don't communicate, so we can't reason with them and we have no way of knowing what they're thinking. Anything else is some form of anthropomorphism. There is danger in making incorrect assumptions based on OUR beliefs that may or may not be true. I'm not interested in any of the religious interpretations one way or another, nor any woo. Carpenters' belief system influences how he views the creatures. We ALL have some sort of belief system about who we are in the grand scheme of things and who THEY are. But distilling the two reasons into the above made sense to me. YMMV.

Its to keep most trolls out. Welcome to the BFF!

Wow, that's both cool and creepy! I've seen bigfoot fingerprints before, and they look just like those. Glad you got a photo! Update. July 5, 2020 = Our FLIR sighting in the Oregon Cascades. 2 bigfoots, about 100 yards or less in the woods, doing the typical tree peek thing. I very clearly saw it lean out from behind the tree - shoulder, head, shoulder. We've been past this spot often, on our way to other locations. We got it on FLIR, but it's shaky compared to what I saw. I had my arm settled on the open door of my truck, and panned around, very steady. I have zero doubt about what I saw. When we recorded, NorthWind was standing recording with the FLIR camera, and it's much shakier. Then, in October 2020, we were at a lake, and something stared across a river at us from inside an 8-foot-tall culvert filled with 4 inches of running water, while we stared back at it wondering who or what it was. We hurried over to that side, but by the time we got there, it was long gone. I count it as a daylight sighting, but I can't prove it, of course. I didn't think to photograph it, and I kick myself daily about that. We've found hundreds of footprints, dozens of track lines, and all the other things that bigfoots supposedly do. Can't say with 100% certainty that its bigfoots doing all this, since I've never seen them do it, but we hope to! We're slowly accumulating gear to that end, and you can see it all on our sub-forum here. We are out there nearly every weekend searching and exploring this mystery. We have a dozen research spots and are methodically gathering data from all this and it's beginning to pay off. I just wish more people actually cared. I love hearing everyone's stories.

I love the awareness that is starting to happen around this phenomenon.

And here's a nice siren-like howl. Hope to hear one of these in person some day!

Although it did not have language-like chatter in it, one of the better historical audio recordings I recall was captured by old BFFer River who gave several of us permission to reuse/repost the recording some years ago. I was going to start a separate thread and reissue that at one point, but life happened and a couple med procedures. So now that I am catching up with stuff from a year or so back here goes. Thanks to @southernyahoo for sending along the backup I may have to amplify the file and reissue it in a separate thread as I think it is a very distant capture. riverscohuttafilenga.mp3

^^^^^ Another example of science choosing which evidence to credit and which to simply discard. Huge footprints made last night with clear evidence of foot morphology is ignored, but footprints claimed to be over 23,000 years old (even though that's eons earlier than any other evidence of human habitation) is enough to get excited about and start stretching the envelope.

@Lamplight You have some very special finger prints there. The finger print ridges are not like us humans and are more straight then ours. That is the first thing that I started looking at and thought that they are very special. Were able to get some one knowledgeable to lift those finger prints of your window. This way they could be saved and could be compared with other apes/primates. Is it not Chillcut the person who I think his name is the one who does this kind a of stuff? That's some good stuff.