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You are being persecuted for stating your opinion as absolute fact about something you only know about from what you read in books, articles and other media as well as from what you heard in blogs and such and then ridicule those that don't agree with you. Some of those people (me included) have first hand knowledge of this creature and some are knowers. I don't think sasquatches have anything to do with aliens, inter dimensional travel, portals and such and even though I have experience it, I have a hard time with mindspeak stuff. Like I said, I think sasquaches are flesh and blood creatures with novel physical attributes, but just because I believe that, it doesn't make it so. I choose to keep an open mind to this and not try to force a sasquatch in a box theory on everyone.

I'm not sure if this is ever been posted here, but it was compiled by Kerry Clausen-Kilmury. It's a Google Map with pins associated with all documented reports in BC. Each pin contains the data on the report as well as a link to the original source. It's an incredible resource. Thank you to Kerry. British Columbia/NWT/Yukon Sasquatch sightings I see she also has one for all of Canada now too: Canada Sasquatch Map 2 I know the Bigfoot Mapping Project is creating something similar for all of North America but it has yet to thoroughly map BC reports: The Bigfoot Mapping Project

No one is persecuting you for being rational wooly, it's the arrogance inherent in characteristic statements such as: "there's no such things as aliens." That's just irrationally arrogant IMO:) ETA, I see Doug covered that...And just tone it down a tad wooly, plenty of room here for discussing all possibilities even those that seem impossible.

Because I’m the one being persecuted here for being rational.

All due respect for everyone's beliefs and opinions, but human (sapiens) evolution is firmly planted on Terra Firma.

Hello all, Im from western PA and very interested in this phenomenon. I’ve never encountered it personally but I’ve spent a great deal of time reading and listening to accounts. One published sighting took place less than 2 miles from my home. Looking forward to learning more here.

We saw two that day. One darted off as I got the camera up, so I set the camera down, just as the second one hopped out to follow her mate. Missed that one, too. Isn't that the way it goes?

@NorthWind thanks for sharing those encounters! I was discounting Florida a bit, but there is definitely a history of reports, and some decent habitat, at least around the Everglades. I think if an area can support cougars, it’s a good indication Sasquatch wouldn’t be impossible. It’s interesting you’ve seen Jaguarundi there, I’ve heard other BF researchers, and even some biologists say the same thing. Some think they’re a “feral” population that escaped from a private collection during a Hurricane. But they were native to the region, so it could be a relict population as well.

"In the beginning was the Word........"

Thanks for those links!!!

Once sapiens achieved a certain level of technology and population, they effectively stymied the evolution of other species developing technology of their own. Imagine if prides of lions banded and cooperatively attacked human villages en masse. Or a Planet of the Apes scenario. It would spark an extermination campaign. Of course sapiens has been around for a measly 300k years, Mother Nature might be warming up some ideas of her own to humble these upstart primates.

In the most basic way, the fact of biologic human evolution is established, but the details are very unestablished. For example, not one but two "species" of Homo have been "discovered" in just the last 18 years, and if these hominids could interbreed with Homo sapiens, the argument over whether or not they are even a different species is quite valid.

Just a guess, but it looks like the small pond is covered with algae, or at least the center portion is. Unfortunately, street view is only on Coash Road and nothing closer can be seen.

I live near Glencoe. It is lovely there 💚

I for sure would include Florida. I have posted this before, but I had three experiences while I lived in Florida. We lived for a couple of years in Sarasota, maybe ten miles or so from Myakka River State Park, where the "Myakka Skunk Ape" photos were allegedly taken. Here's a copy: _____ Though I live in Oregon, all three of my "experiences" happened in Florida, less than ten miles from Myakka River State Park about fifteen years ago. I was living at a country club / older folks' community called Heritage Oaks while I was in Florida going to school for a couple of years. Whenever I could, I would get out into nature by hiking up at Myakka River State Park and surrounding areas. Beautiful place, but it can be dangerous. There’s a lot of wildlife and it seems everything out there is looking to hurt or kill you. Lots of gators, poisonous snakes, spiders, boars, panthers, and my wife and I even saw two jaguarundis once at Myakka River State Park. My experiences though, happened at the golf course, strangely enough. The first experience we had, I was with my wife and we were out sitting on our screened in porch on the second floor enjoying a cigar and a cold fermented malt beverage. It was very late at night, I would say maybe 2AM, and we had the lights out so I wouldn’t get busted for smoking a cigar. Just talking and relaxing. This second-floor porch overlooked maybe 20 feet of grass, then a retaining pond (lake), and the golf course itself. We could see none of it though, it was a very dark night. Well this night was very quiet. Suddenly, we heard bipedal footsteps sloshing through the water. Big. Deliberate. Not fast, but not slow. It was covering a lot of ground with those steps. Now it was too dark to see, but I knew at the time there are only two things in the water at night in Florida. Gators, and gator food. If you are not one, you are the other. But even though you could hear the sloshing of the steps, you could almost feel the ground thumping as whatever it was moved. It wouldn’t make sense that a person would be walking through the water at night after midnight with no flashlight (or even with one for that matter). But this was no gator. Whatever it was was walking on two legs. As it passed the “lanai”, we were both afraid to even look to see what it was. Not that we could have anyway. But we didn’t even want to get close to the screen. It passed right by us. I would say no more than 30 feet away, max. It never broke stride. We were both too afraid to even speak. And when we did, we whispered and didn’t pronounce our “s’s” because we didn’t want to be heard by whatever it was. We sat there a long while after this thing was gone, trying to figure out what it was. I joked “skunk ape” with her, but the truth was that I was pretty certain that’s what we heard. I have seen deer out there and tons of birds. But this was no deer. No wild pig. Not a bear. Not a panther. It was bigger than those for certain. I still don’t KNOW what it was But if I had to put money down on something, I would have to go with a skunk ape because nothing else fits. That was the first experience. The second and third ones are tied together. Let me set the stage a little. I had an old dog. He was awesome. Always quiet and mild mannered. Unless there was danger. Then he became 120 pounds of growling snarling canine badassery. Mix of black lab, German shepherd, chow, akita, and coyote. I had to walk him when I got home from school. Usually that was after midnight or so. Outside the gate of the community though, there was swamp land, and general native Florida wilderness. When I say “gate”, I mean there was a drop-down arm to block vehicles, but people could just walk around it. Boy, I miss the sounds of the gators and frogs at night! I would take Tucker out there to do his business next to the road. I always carried my pistol because it was scary out there with just a flashlight. This particular night, I was walking Tucker towards the gate to get out to the road to his happy pooping grounds, when he started walking slower. His head was lowered, and he was growling softly. Now we were still in the golf course community, mind you. But right next to a small pond that was completely blocked off with trees. You couldn’t even see this pond. Not even the landscapers went in there. I know, because I was curious and went in there one day. Very thick native Florida bush. Then swampy pond. Almost perfectly circular. Maybe fifty feet across is all. It’s own little nature preserve in miniature. It was right next to a man-made retaining pond that had gators and fish and frogs and snakes and the like in it. As we were passing this pond which you cannot see, Tucker’s hackles went up and he started growling loud, and baring his teeth. His eyes were fixed on the small trees next to us. These trees were maybe 20 to 25 feet tall. Almost like tall bushes, really. Just as I was really realizing that something was in there, that something growled from the cover of those trees. Loud as hell. I could feel it in my chest, even. I could feel my hair stand up. That had never happened to me before, and it was a really strange sensation. That growl was so low in pitch and loud! It was not a gator, as I have heard those sounds before many times. Then the trees began shaking VIOLENTLY. I thought whatever it was was either going to rip them down or come charging out, so I had my 1911 drawn. We backed away from those trees without turning around. I did not want to turn my back to them. My heart was pounding. I was scared crapless. We finally came home from a different route (we actually walked all the way around the community because I didn’t want to pass those bushes again. My wife asked where I had been and I explained everything. She thought it was funny. Well I was not amused. A few weeks went by, and my mother in law came to visit from Texas. We had an extra room, so it was no big deal. She always loved to go outside and see the nature there. She loved to walk the dog, too. I told her to stay away from the “growly bushes” as they had become to be known as. She teased me and I tried to explain I was NOT kidding and I was deadly serious. It piqued her curiousity. Well late one night maybe here or four weeks after the first “growly-bush” experience, we had been tipping a few drinks out on the lanai. It was late, and the dog needed to go out one last time. She volunteered, and asked me to go with her because she wanted to see the “growly-bushes”. I decided to show her where it happened. So foolishly, we headed down there. Tucker again started growling slow and low, with his head down as we approached the bushes. My mother in law started getting freaked out. Then as we got near them, the thing growled loud at us and shook the trees again, exactly as it had done before. My mother in law was terrified, and so was I. When we got back up to the safety of the condo, she swore that she would never doubt me again. Neither of us know for certain what growled at us. But whatever it was, had to be huge to shake the trees like that. I tried shaking them in the day time some time later, and could get them to move, but nothing like what we experienced. The good thing is that I had a witness this time. And she was able to relay what happened to my wife. Now my wife knows I was not joking about it. There are strange things out there. And now that I am in Oregon and my kids are grown, I want to find out. That’s why I go out to the woods when I can and search for these beings. I know they are out there. And I hope to be able to find enough proof to satisfy my own curiosity, which I think will never be satisfied. _____

This is one of the best footprints I've ever seen. It was found in northeastern Iowa a couple of years ago by a friend of mine. The cast was shown to both Cliff and Dr. Meldrum and they were really impressed to the point where Cliff had a copy made for this museum. What makes this so impressive is the dermal ridges can be seen and shows up in the cast. First question, can we rule out this is a human track? Based on the size, it is obviously a juvenile print. It was found after a rainy night approximately 1 1/2 miles from the nearest dwelling. It was in the 50's overnight so I would conclude that a child wouldn't be wandering the Iowa countryside barefoot in those temperatures so far from any type of house. The dimensions of the print are also outside of human ratios. The heel to ball ratio in humans is approximately 1:1.5 whereas this one is closer to 1:1 based on my research. Caveat that I'm definitely no expert on human foot morphology so I would welcome those with more knowledge on the topic. There were other prints of this size but this was the best one of the bunch. No larger footprints were found in the area. Fun stuff.

That's on par with calling them the Nephilim, which is as far out there as one is reasonably going to get. Conjecture isn't even the word at that point. What I saw wasn't human, but it was most certain more than an ape. It seemed to be a humanish "something either unique or in between favoring the humaner end of the spectrum)

I hope its an animal so we can get one in my local zoo, that would be cool.

Can you prove to me right now at this moment that sasquatch exists beyond a reasonable doubt without meeting in person?

The government has basically admitted that aliens are flying through our airspace at will. So in ufology what is real and what is not? Travis Walton? Betty and Barney Hill? Etc? Is there a connection to other phenomena? I used to say emphatically NO. But I can no longer say that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws#The_laws Magic.

"Crocodile" Dundee: ...Well, you can live on it, but it tastes like sh*t.

Again, your simplistic use of the word "human" illustrates your poor grasp of the question. Neanderthals were humans. Denisovans were humans. Homo Erectus were humans. Homo floresiensis were humans. Homo Rudolphensis were humans. Zana was human. Almasty might be human. Sasquatch might be human. Even you might be human.

I don't think you'll find consensus. Opinions vary and are strongly held. I don't think there's evidence for BF being merely a myth, the only support that has is lack of proof to the contrary, and lack of proof is not proof of lack. My research approach is looking for a F&B "critter", yes, a bipedal primate, but that's a weak term, it glosses over how truly close to us I think they are genetically. I'm looking at them being the robustus to our gracile .. more or less. Like darwin's finches evolving specializations to avoid competition for resources. Genetically, we run hot, open savannah in bright daylight, they walk cold, snowy mountains in the dark. Each specialization we have, they seem to have the opposite. I suspect they have brain capabilities similar to ours but oriented differently because their physical advantages resolve needs we had to develop tools and fire to compensate for. At the same time, in my past as a report investigator I had access to the raw reports almost nobody sees and there was an incredible amount of high strangeness that got "sanitized" out of the raw reports prior to publication. For me it is necessary to leave the possibility of some of the woo explanations on the table at least for now because, as I said before, lack of proof is not proof of lack, we just discard the uncomfortable so we don't have to deal with it. My approach in the field focuses on F&B. I keep an eye out for the "woo" and for ways to try to apply science to studying that when I encounter it. I can't take skepticism seriously. I've had two clear sightings. Non-existence is off of the table for me. MIB

Most everyone I have ever spoken directly with who has had a bigfoot sighting / encounter has never officially reported it. That would greatly change the data.

Fair enough. I have a different take-away though. My analogy is icebergs. 10% above the surface, 90% below .. give or take. I don't think it is our research practices or methods that are flawed, I think it is the assumptions that guide them .. a deeper, more fundamental flaw. We're not inept. I believe that if our assumptions were right, then our methods would have produced results. I don't know what the answer is but I am convinced that whatever it is, we're going to find that bigfoots aren't what we think they are. I think we need to step back and review the apparent crackpot theories. Apply some science to them looking for ways they could succeed, not just for ways to dismiss them. I think that because we are uncomfortable with aspects of them, we attempt to force failure so we don't have to face discomfort rather than looking into them to see how they might work thus suss out the answer to our mystery. You might even say we use "pure science" as a means to hide intellectual cowardice. MIB

I disagree with you there. I think you could count with two hands the number of committed groups who hit the field repeatedly and methodically and that is the problem.

Back in the 70's I was at Bluff Creek several times. Walked the sandbar where the film was taken many times. All I ever found were bears and lots of bear tracks. That is how I came up with Bearfoot!

Yes, those are the striking differences, Humans are ill equipt and incredibly destructive to every system on Terra, moreso, I think, than any other species including cancers. Strange to "evolve" methods of survival so far outside the sustainability of one's habitat. We really don't seem to "fit," not at this stage anyway. Maybe our current state- illnesses, environmental degradation, food toxification and bill gates are hurdles we'll evolve around to become better suited stewards and participants of/in the incredibly elegant system we inhabit. The Sasquatch would appreciate our re-alignment methinks, maybe our off-world progenitors would too:) It's interesting to consider. I'm a big fan of time, no need to force all of the answers now, with so many missing pieces. The arrogance some display over the question is pretty juvenile, we don't even know what we are, outside of flesh and bone, kinda funny.

You know, the more I think on things, the more I wonder if this conclusion is more correct in some way The sasquatch species seems to fit right in to this planet. and us? Maybe not so much. Drop us naked in the woods and we'd be dead within a week, probably less. I think they are a hominid species that split from our branch of the family tree a long time ago. We share some similarities, and vast differences. They are a mirror version of us. We are day - they are night. We are tool users - they have no such need. We are destroyers - they are maintainers. We manipulate the world to suit our needs - they manipulate themselves to live in the world. We share commonalities, but I suspect our differences outnumber them. I think they are perfectly suited to the wild, as much as we are suited to community.

Yep, the Elohim could have been aliens!