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yeah, so in short there are encounters that describe sparse hair, eyes that glow of their own volition, seen with or shortly after seeing orbs of light, they vanish into thin air, arms that nearly drag the ground, some reports even mention a gliding/floating movement, and a skinny gangly appearance. one of the guys on our research team is a 30+ year UFO/AUP investigator, one trip he grabbed his full kit because the whole sighting sounded familiar to him. there have been three sightings that we have immediately followed up on that the area was contaminated with residual radiation that was setting off his Geiger Counter, tri-field meter, and caused some electronics misbehave like static on a zoom H5 audio recorder. cross referencing and working with researcher Stan Gordon from the chestnut ridge in PA we've been able to start the hypothesis that many of the reports that lean into the paranormal aspects of "bigfoot", for lack of any term in the English language, may deserve another look. we're beginning to see a divide in the reports, this is now obvious when one comes in based off of general info from the report. we see at least 2 different phenomena being lumped under 1 banner and much of the data has been lost because researchers scrub those reports and discount them because they are only interested in F&B reports. we're not sure what these "others" are but there is a data pool being gathered and we have had unexplainable readings at 3 of the 5 "anomalous" bigfoot reports, the other two we were able to determine that there was nothing unusual there in the first place after being on site. it was a weird being out on the first one. i have had my own experience with bigfoot like creatures, they were quite normal for being what they are imo. going to a bigfoot sighting area hours after it was reported where they claimed the creature vanished but left prints and partial prints (very very narrow and long in respect to what i consider "typical") then hearing my partners untinsils starting to click, faster and faster, as we approached the actual site left me perplexed because up to that moment i busted peoples balls about the whole paranormal aspect. this caused a deep dive due to a challenge to my existing paradigm and we began connecting with researchers who had weird reports that they didn't just dump into file 13 and we started to draw parallels. were not sure what this "other" is but it is not Sasquatch at all. some of the features seem to have a bit of a crossover but thats where similarities stop. now, with that said, im forced to take some, but not all, of these more bizarre cases more seriously.

Yeah, I see what you mean.

You mean the disturbance circled below?

I'm more of a physical evidence guy myself too. I don't totally discount video and audio, there has been some good audio lately... not so much with video. Could you expand more on what you mean with the "woo" and Bigfoot. Are you suggesting "woo" (and by that I mean one or several unknown phenomena) are independent of Bigfoot activity/reports, but are being misattributed to them? And what do you mean by similar hair and size, are you suggesting there's essentially a "paranomral" entity, that looks similar to Bigfoot, and is independent, but alongside, a flesh and blood creature? That's an interesting angle I've never heard, I'm curious what you mean. I'm firmly flesh and blood, and don't give the woo stuff much weight, even things like eyeshine I'm pretty skeptical of. I think there's even better evidence for UFO's being extraterrestrial, or something else unknown. But I don't think UFO's and Bigfoot are related at all, no more so than UFO's and deer.

Hi! I'm Liam. From Miami, Florida. I've been interested in it since I was young since back then I was into that cryptid stuff (I still am.) And I think the Patterson-Gimlin Film is an actual sighting of one because of the stride and gait.

Lol this thread has predicibly been a roller coaster. To the OP, one should generally assume that the disposition of the creature we refer to as bigfoot will has as wide a range of disposition as the differences between people, or maybe the difference between eastern and western populations of black bear.

Lookin' tough!

Thanks I have an Epilog Helix 75 watt 18”x24” laser. Works very well for my needs. I am working on another method for recording as well. I will post my results when I get it done.

@Sasquatchodon this all falls into a personal preference category imo. What some see as good evidence others immediately shout down. When you think “ best evidence” what does that translate too? Stills, casts, hair, video? Personally I’m a material guy, I like evidence I can touch more than watch. My business partner is a VFX guy and a lot can be manipulated on a screen. But casts and hair are tangible , we can examine and scrutinize details and mechanics and structure of those. The Olympic Projects nests for example are a big deal to me. Also we’ve collected several casts over the last 3-4 years. another big deal, on a completely different spectrum, is how close I think we are at the collective to actually establishing a strong argument for what is referred to as “woo”. And before anyone goes nuts lol we don’t think it’s Bigfoot related at all, it’s a failure of the English language in not having the words for experiancers to use so they can articulate their encounter without the entanglement of the word bigfoot . In a lot of cases they report what they see, using the lexicon they have and the closest thing that fits is Bigfoot. aside from the hair and size the similarities stop there and we’ve got 2 years of actual data using scientific instrumentation to collect hard irrefutable data from several anomalies that were included in BF reports we received. Instead of ignoring them we took a more unorthodox approach and we’re surprised with the results, even more-so that they were repeatable. I’m still camp flesh and blood btw, at least for Sasquatch anyways lol. I’m just far more open minded to some of the more “bizarre” reports, but not exactly all of them.

But think about all those other videos where they don't aim the camera to the side at just the right time! You never see anything! And we have no idea how long that poor sasquatch was running along side waiting for the camera turn. If they had waited just a bit longer they might have caught it trying to wave them down or flipping them off in frustration.

I decided to explore La Ventana Wilderness in Monterey County California in early April. There are only 4 BRFO reports (in the SSR database) for Monterey County in California but I have heard of other non-public reports. I have never visited this wilderness area before. Attached below is a Google Earth image snip with the 4 BFRO Reports plotted (3 orange dots and 1 yellow dot) to put in the context the route I took. I went backpacking into the Ventana Wilderness via the route shown in the attached map. It was a 3 nights and 4 days backpack. The first night was spent at Vicente Flat campground which was next to a creek. The campground had lots of people ~15. The second night was spent at Goat Camp (a beautiful location with creeks north and south and view of the ocean). Only saw 3 other people there. On the 3rd day, we took a long day hike to Cone Peak and back, and spent the last night at Limekiln creek. This is not a campground, but we crashed on a wash on the creek (see photo). We saw no large wildlife (deer, coyote, etc.). Did not even see squirrels! Saw snakes, bluebirds, and numerous other birds. I used my audio recorder the first 2 nights, and there were plenty of barred owls and other type of owls. No unusual sounds were detected. On the 3rd night by the creek, the creek sound was too loud to record anything so I did not record. I took my big thermal imager and tripod all the way up to Goat Camp and back and did not use it. I did not use it because my strategy was to keep it in my tent off until I heard some anomalous sound. Then I will turn it on, scan the area and mount it on tripod. Neither I nor my buddy (who does not believe in BF nor cares about looking for it) heard any weird sounds during all 3 nights. I did this trip because I wanted to explore deep into the Ventana wilderness and see the different ecosystems. We saw diverse types of vegetation (chaparral, cypress, live oaks, redwoods, sugar pines) and also grass and lupine meadows. There was plenty of water in those creeks up there. I saw no sign of BF in all in the areas we visited. I don't know if BF is still present in the coastal areas south of Monterey. This wilderness area gets lots of visitors in the spring (after rainy season and before the hot summer). The whole trail had poison oak all along the way. We took Tecnu and washed every time we thought we touched the plants. While I did not get any rash while I was there, I did get hit with a poison oak rash on my left arm after I got home. Whole left arm is full of blisters and swollen. Probably won't hike again in coastal areas with poison oak anymore since I am extremely allergic.

Ancient megafauna, a lot older than we are. Just my speculation.

I like how the camera points straight ahead until they get to the creature…🙄

I agree 100%. What statement? That black bears are predatory towards humans? Even with the "scientific" reference included? You are very pugnacious.

I think any Earthling that chooses to remain so hidden must be inherently non aggressive. Like Black bears, they're only violent towards humans if they have to be

Now we just need a body to put in it

Thanks for the mention my friend. We’re doing our best out here and trying to train up a new wave of investigators that will be able to competently walk the forests and follow up reports. Btw, we got a heel impression cast that is a 1-1 match for the wine berry cast from a year ago in the same general area. Camera deployed, now we wait.