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So, I've been off work sick the last two days and have been indulging in podcasts and various Bigfoot programs on Netflix and Amazon. I notice a lot of researchers say they hope Bigfoot is "discovered" one day and a few mention they believe it will be by accident. You know...hit by a semi or shot by a hunter sort of thing. A few of them talk about how great that would be if it happened for science and how happy they would be to be validated. I just don't quite buy into that. Wouldn't you be flat out p****d off if you had spent thousands of dollars on research equipment and field expeditions, traveling to far off corners of woodlands spending time away from your family (who probably thinks you're nuts), suffering cuts and bruises and stings and bites, devoting nearly every free hour to researching old books and maps and chasing sighting reports and generally giving your all to BE THE ONE....only to have some schlub who never gave Bigfoot a second thought shoot one he thought was a bear or a trucker flatten one driving Hwy 22 and they luck out and get all the "glory" of t.v. interviews, big dollar deals, and publicity. It'd be like playing a slot machine in Vegas all day ...winning a bit and then losing a bit...until you're broke and the very next person who puts in a dollar on "your" machine wins the jackpot. Frankly, I could see Matt Moneymaker (for example) screaming, "It's not fair! It's not fair! That shoulda been meeeeee!" (Before he desperately contacts every media outlet to offer his expert opinion.) Anyway...just a random thought as I enjoy my medication.....

Give him a break. This is a holiday weekend, and his federal income taxes are also due tomorrow.

Maiden voyage! (Just on property in Newport) It rides nicer than the K5…

Looks good! I fully expect you to have this whole bigfoot thing solved by Monday.

Hi to all. My name is Joe from Arkansas and came about this forum through searches about the subject of Bigfoot or Sasquatch. I have been an avid follower of the subject since first seeing the Patterson footage when I was a kid. I knew the footage was real at the time of viewing and still do. I desire to get as many opinions and perspectives about this topic as possible. Inquiring minds want to know more and I feel it's just a matter of time until we receive them.

Ours was mid-day, maybe noon-ish. My son and I were squatted down in the slough brush picking Chanterelles and this critter went off, stomping and wood knocking, back and forth, right to left and then back left to right. I really don't think it could see us and was trying to get us to move so it could see what/who we were. It's a good idea not to trust them too much. Always be very cautious and treat them like any other big predator out there.

yeah, so in short there are encounters that describe sparse hair, eyes that glow of their own volition, seen with or shortly after seeing orbs of light, they vanish into thin air, arms that nearly drag the ground, some reports even mention a gliding/floating movement, and a skinny gangly appearance. one of the guys on our research team is a 30+ year UFO/AUP investigator, one trip he grabbed his full kit because the whole sighting sounded familiar to him. there have been three sightings that we have immediately followed up on that the area was contaminated with residual radiation that was setting off his Geiger Counter, tri-field meter, and caused some electronics misbehave like static on a zoom H5 audio recorder. cross referencing and working with researcher Stan Gordon from the chestnut ridge in PA we've been able to start the hypothesis that many of the reports that lean into the paranormal aspects of "bigfoot", for lack of any term in the English language, may deserve another look. we're beginning to see a divide in the reports, this is now obvious when one comes in based off of general info from the report. we see at least 2 different phenomena being lumped under 1 banner and much of the data has been lost because researchers scrub those reports and discount them because they are only interested in F&B reports. we're not sure what these "others" are but there is a data pool being gathered and we have had unexplainable readings at 3 of the 5 "anomalous" bigfoot reports, the other two we were able to determine that there was nothing unusual there in the first place after being on site. it was a weird being out on the first one. i have had my own experience with bigfoot like creatures, they were quite normal for being what they are imo. going to a bigfoot sighting area hours after it was reported where they claimed the creature vanished but left prints and partial prints (very very narrow and long in respect to what i consider "typical") then hearing my partners untinsils starting to click, faster and faster, as we approached the actual site left me perplexed because up to that moment i busted peoples balls about the whole paranormal aspect. this caused a deep dive due to a challenge to my existing paradigm and we began connecting with researchers who had weird reports that they didn't just dump into file 13 and we started to draw parallels. were not sure what this "other" is but it is not Sasquatch at all. some of the features seem to have a bit of a crossover but thats where similarities stop. now, with that said, im forced to take some, but not all, of these more bizarre cases more seriously.

@Annie Nore and everyone else who are trying to interact with these people, I would caution immediately tracking down sounds that you think could be related. I think there were at least eight sound incidents that made me wait until daylight to investigate or back out of the area because something didn't feel right. There were three daylight sound events here that I was extremely curious about but after pausing and listening I backed away because I was uncomfortable, somewhat like being lured? I remember saying during one event in the yard, "You want me to go around that corner, don't you?" and I wouldn't do it, just backed away. I tell you, though, two of the sound events had me unbelievably curious and I wanted to climb over the fence and wander into dense overgrown brush and difficult to access woods to solve the mystery. It happened on two different days in an area that I know to have trees and nothing else. The sound was definitely out-of-place. Things like that make you pause in the first place, best to move away if you are unsure.

Just picked it up!

I decided to explore La Ventana Wilderness in Monterey County California in early April. There are only 4 BRFO reports (in the SSR database) for Monterey County in California but I have heard of other non-public reports. I have never visited this wilderness area before. Attached below is a Google Earth image snip with the 4 BFRO Reports plotted (3 orange dots and 1 yellow dot) to put in the context the route I took. I went backpacking into the Ventana Wilderness via the route shown in the attached map. It was a 3 nights and 4 days backpack. The first night was spent at Vicente Flat campground which was next to a creek. The campground had lots of people ~15. The second night was spent at Goat Camp (a beautiful location with creeks north and south and view of the ocean). Only saw 3 other people there. On the 3rd day, we took a long day hike to Cone Peak and back, and spent the last night at Limekiln creek. This is not a campground, but we crashed on a wash on the creek (see photo). We saw no large wildlife (deer, coyote, etc.). Did not even see squirrels! Saw snakes, bluebirds, and numerous other birds. I used my audio recorder the first 2 nights, and there were plenty of barred owls and other type of owls. No unusual sounds were detected. On the 3rd night by the creek, the creek sound was too loud to record anything so I did not record. I took my big thermal imager and tripod all the way up to Goat Camp and back and did not use it. I did not use it because my strategy was to keep it in my tent off until I heard some anomalous sound. Then I will turn it on, scan the area and mount it on tripod. Neither I nor my buddy (who does not believe in BF nor cares about looking for it) heard any weird sounds during all 3 nights. I did this trip because I wanted to explore deep into the Ventana wilderness and see the different ecosystems. We saw diverse types of vegetation (chaparral, cypress, live oaks, redwoods, sugar pines) and also grass and lupine meadows. There was plenty of water in those creeks up there. I saw no sign of BF in all in the areas we visited. I don't know if BF is still present in the coastal areas south of Monterey. This wilderness area gets lots of visitors in the spring (after rainy season and before the hot summer). The whole trail had poison oak all along the way. We took Tecnu and washed every time we thought we touched the plants. While I did not get any rash while I was there, I did get hit with a poison oak rash on my left arm after I got home. Whole left arm is full of blisters and swollen. Probably won't hike again in coastal areas with poison oak anymore since I am extremely allergic.

I don’t mean this is a smart aleck way, so I hope that it doesn’t come across that way… I guess that I am not giving credit to those folks because I don’t know what they did or didn’t do. I am sure that there were some real dedicated people, but as interested as I am in looking for Sasquatch… I am not very interested in learning about other people who look for Sasquatch. There are a couple of well known researchers whose theories I find interesting, but I don’t spend a lot of time researching the researchers. I would hazard a guess that almost everyone in this forum is more familiar with 99% of the well known researchers than I am. I will say that I stand by my statement that a lot of people who are involved with this sort of thing (especially for long periods of time) have extremely rigid views and waste no opportunity to inflict those views on others…usually with no supporting evidence. I do enjoy discussing the topic and trading ideas with open minded people… especially ones who are boots on the ground.

Not new, but simply not done. Go out to bigfoot country, make a temporary camp and stay there from April to September. No motor vehicles. Live there for 6 months, cook, chop wood, hunt, fish, etc and be ready for the moment.

Fair enough. I have a different take-away though. My analogy is icebergs. 10% above the surface, 90% below .. give or take. I don't think it is our research practices or methods that are flawed, I think it is the assumptions that guide them .. a deeper, more fundamental flaw. We're not inept. I believe that if our assumptions were right, then our methods would have produced results. I don't know what the answer is but I am convinced that whatever it is, we're going to find that bigfoots aren't what we think they are. I think we need to step back and review the apparent crackpot theories. Apply some science to them looking for ways they could succeed, not just for ways to dismiss them. I think that because we are uncomfortable with aspects of them, we attempt to force failure so we don't have to face discomfort rather than looking into them to see how they might work thus suss out the answer to our mystery. You might even say we use "pure science" as a means to hide intellectual cowardice. MIB

I disagree with you there. I think you could count with two hands the number of committed groups who hit the field repeatedly and methodically and that is the problem.

If I had to live in NY, or in the Midwest, I'd be grouchy, too...