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All the more reason to go to places where other people almost never go. The farther you go offtrail, and the more challenging the terrain is, the more likely it will be that a human was not involved in whatever you heard or saw. I've purposely done wood knocks where the sound of my knock was directed toward a swamp. No way a human would be there during the day, much less in the inky black of night, waiting to hoax someone who might come along. It worked spectacularly one night.

Thoughts from an admitted Finding Bigfoot critic: I must start by saying shows like Finding Bigfoot to me are very damaging to the credibility of the subject of Bigfoot. What little I have watched seem to boil down to people walking around in the woods, seeing nothing, and attributing every normal thing as a 'Squatch' out there. Now I do hear this whistle on this video offered up and I don't know what it is. I do know there are 8.5 billion people on the planet, and they happen to have the ability to whistle. For me it's more likely if anything on 2 legs made a whistle noise then it is probably something like that vs a shy animal who makes a point not to be seen by people. Let me say that again. Something trying to avoid people. At one point I am told how Bigfoot likes to throw rocks as a warning when people are near it (as if anyone has any idea this is so). Then, I am told any Bigfoot likes to throw rocks unless they don't throw rocks and whistle instead. Then they communicate by hitting trees with logs unless it's more convenient to say they whistle instead. TV Shows devoted to film footage, tracks, suit recreations, the PGF, statistical analysis, and so on have credibility. We see this kind of adult conversation by people like Dr. Jeff, Munns, and so on. We even see this on the other side by reasonable scientists who discuss the concepts in a fair manner. To those who think Bigfoot exists must then hold Bigfoot exists. By that thinking they should never fear testing the concept of tracks, film or whatever as the more it's tested the more it should -on a whole- support Bigfoot's existence. I'm surprised shows like Finding Bigfoot are no laughed off the TV. Sorry if this upsets anyone. It shouldn't. They may mean well, but these shows are joke. They couldn't even get the episode right where they had Bob Gilmin done correctly. What an opportunity and what do they do? Take him to the wrong spot at bluff creek and let him say a few things and that was about it. What a lost opportunity on what such an episode of a bigfoot subject could have been.

Hi. I just joined the forum. I have been out several times by myself looking for bigfoot. There is a state park in NC where bigfoot is said to walk around your tent, push on the tent, then scrape in the gravel right next to your tent, especially at one particular campsite. I went to the park on a week night at 25 degrees in mid-January, and I was truly the only person camping there that night. At 4 am, I woke up to something walking around my tent on the gravel pad. Then, right at my head, something pushed in the wall of my tent, and kept it pushed in, holding it there. I was stuffed inside 3 sleeping bags like a sausage, and I had a briar proof coat formed like an igloo over my head so my face wouldn't freeze. Let me tell you, I was WIDE AWAKE in a split second. I decided to first pull off the coat from around my head, so I could hear better. Then I was going to grab my Stun baton. It is a 15 inch stun baton with electric arcs that go up and down the shaft, and it looks and sounds terrifying. I haven't met a mean dog yet that doesn't cower and slink away at just the sight and sound of it. As I pulled my arm out of the sleeping bags, and reached up and grabbed the coat out of the way, the thing outside pushed down on the tent right at my head even harder. Immediately after that, it scraped loudly in the gravel with its feet. My eyes were WIDE open and I was very alert and my heart was pumping. Then I calmed down, because it left my tent, and 3 feet away I heard a light pounce into the dry winter leaves, and then another pounce beyond that, and then silence. I realized then what had happened. A fox came snooping around the tent for any leftovers a camper might drop outside. Then, it wasn't sure if someone was in the tent or not, so it reared up on its hind legs and pressed against the tent with its front paws, probably sniffing as well I presume. It's front paws and weight pushed the tent wall in right at my head. When I moved my coat out of the way, that freaked the fox out. So it pushed off the tent wall with its front paws (thereby pushing on my head even more), and while pushing away, twisted around to leap away (thereby scraping hind feet in the gravel). Then it leapt twice into the woods and slinked silently away. So I think my "bigfoot" visit was a fox. Since then, there have been more people claiming to see something, and even a thermal photo at night in the woods. They are also claiming to have found several prints lately. Most people who go out just stick to walking around the established trails with expensive cameras, thermals, and parabolic listening dishes. I do not have any equipment except for a hunting style red headlamp and powerful red beam floodlight. I'm not local to the area. It is almost a 3 hour drive for me to get there. I am planning to go again Thursday Sept 15. Hopefully I will be the only camper there again since it is a week night. There is a creek that winds its way through the park, in many places along side the trails, which are high up on the banks. I have about 3 gallons of wild green apples. I plan on Thursday during the day, to start at one end of the park and kayak through the park. I plan to investigate the sandbars and banks that are hard to reach on foot. Along the way, I will cut apples and throw the apples out on the sandbars and along the banks that are difficult to reach on foot (especially inaccessible to 99% of the hikers who only travel the established trails). Then Thursday night, I plan to launch the kayak again. There are copperheads and moccasins, so I will definitely wear my snake boots and have my hooked snake stick. I plan to drift downstream with my red headlamp on, then about every 50 yards, anchor on a bush or rock, and turn off the light and sit there in the dark for about 10 minutes. Then turn on my red headlamp, and look around for eyeshine. If I see something, then I will flip on my powerful red floodlight. Then I will drift 50 yards further down and just repeat this process in the dark. That is how I used to catch water snakes. I would go out and stand in the water, check for anything around me, then turn off the lights and stand there motionless, then turn the light back on and look around after several minutes. Things come back out into the open if you just don't move and don't make noise. On Friday, before heading home, I plan to put the kayak in again and retrace my steps in the daylight, and look for fresh prints and see what happened to the apples. Does this sound like a good plan? From what I have read, "they always travel the creeks". And they seem to be curious and people see them usually while doing other things. So I am hoping if something is really there, it will be curious about something happening (me) in the creek, and come near the banks to take a look. Any refinements or suggestions? Should I place the apples on rocks in the creek, or along the sandbanks of the creek? Most people put apples way high in trees, from what I have read. But since I am in the creek, I am thinking they should be low, like on rocks in the creek or on the sandbars. Maybe stack some apples in a small pyramid or something. At this point, I have no equipment, and I'm not really into the calling and tree knocking and so forth. Most of my outdoor experience has been snake catching, and looking for predators, and so I've always tried to make as little noise as possible and just observe my surroundings and be still, move to another place, observe and be still, etc. For now I will try that, but maybe later I might experiment with knocking or something. Thank you for any input you wish to give!

^^^ TV shows are obviously based on ratings. I guess if a show is done for X $$$ amount of money and it returns X plus $$$ then it is considered a sucess. Look at when History Channel or Discovery devoted a show to an update on 'evidence' Amelia Erhart and her co pilot were 'captured by the Japanese' They offered up a well-produced show with a photo discovered said to show the aviator and Fred sitting on a dock with their backs toward us. The only problem is this was not them and it was proved the photo could be found in a book published before the flight ever occurred. The show was made aware of this in the news but went ahead and played the show anyway. I guess the thinking may have been to at least present the spirt of the crash-capture theory even if the photo itself was no longer proof of it. After all, they already invested the money. If the goal had been to present the facts running the show was not the facts. Further, I don't recall a disclaimer about the photo but they may have been this or some other statement. Could have been, but I don't recall. I just remember the news had already reported this photo could not be Amelia. Moral of the story: TV produced shows are about ratings / audience. I have to think Finding Bigfoot doesn't really care if Bigfoot is real or not. They don't care if a snap of a twig was really a squatch or not. Shows like Monster Quest at least are shows presenting both sides and some evidence or demonstrations. Finding Bigfoot ends up being a mini town hall of 40 people who nearly all raise their hand when asked, "How many of you have seen Bigfoot"? Then, it's off to the woods with night vision gear. Pretend the court of Public Opinion is some court of law. Who do you really want to make the case for Bigfoot's existence? SHOW A: Interviews with eyewitness accounts, PGF, Track evidence and analysis, wildlife experts, costume experts and so on. SHOW B: A few people show up to some town there a sighting or report might have taken place. They talk on and on about a creature they know exists to the point they seem to know its' favorite color, food, and baseball team. Then they go out with night vision gear in some area and find nothing. In the Jury of Public opinion, what is more convincing or worthy of consideration for future study to such a jury. It's not Show B and the very existence of people taking show B seriously undermines the great efforts of Show A?

This one is from the ranch in Rice. 😬

Here are some pics from the other day, 2 sizes that were heading to a water source......a couple of them appear to overlap with other prints, the 3rd & 4th pics are nice juviefoot prints IMO.