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I’m looking for help locating a photo of a bear in this position. I need it to show a complete bears legs, butt, back, and head on the ground. Not just butts and legs. Since the beginning the Pennsylvania Game Commission under public pressure for answers had the opinion it was a mange infected bear in this contorted position. This photo was the one that made them think it was a bear. “It’s probably a group of bears this one rubbing it’s head on the ground like a dog” said Jerry Feaser. It’s been 15 years surely someone somewhere has a matching photo of this position by now if this is a bear. I’m starting this thread to search for that photo not for arguments over opinions. I think everyone has heard all the opinions that it was a hoax, Bear, Chimpanzee, and juvenile Sasquatch… I used a photo that had a filter to possibly see the shape better but you can use the original on the BFRO website if you wish.

Supposedly this was taken in Minnesota. Trail cam photo. On all fours. But this is clearly not a Bear, frontal shot. Barring it from being a hoax? What could it be? Is juvenile Bigfoot off the table?

Standard 50 lbs salt block is 10.5 inches long. The one present in the photo is on end. https://www.amazon.com/50-Plain-Wht-Salt-Block/dp/B007025IZI

On David Paulides' latest Missing 411 YouTube video, he goes over a missing climber story from 1972 in Mt. Jefferson. At ~ 52 minutes in the link below, Paulides tells the story of Steve Stokeley (the 19 year old man who went missing after summiting Mt. Jefferson). Apparently, Steve was more aggressive and/or better trained than his 3 friends and wanted to climb the summit via a harder but faster route. He made it to the top solo and before his 3 friends. According to Paulides, Steve was coming down from the summit and told his 3 friends (who were still climbing up) that he will meet them down in camp. Steve never made it to camp and his body was never found. What Paulides does not explain is that climbing Mt. Jefferson is not a piece of cake and is very dangerous (you need crampons, ice-ace, and rappelling skills). Below are links to a couple of videos of climbers summiting Mt. Jefferson and they show how difficult and dangerous that climb is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfrkes4HuT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISFS0zAyCBE After watching these 2 climbing videos, I concluded that that climb is treacherous and a bad move above the red saddle could lead to a fall to death (thousands of feed down). Just this year, a guy fell to his death but his body was found 3 days later via helicopter search (see link below). https://ktvz.com/news/accidents-crashes/2022/07/05/fallen-climbers-body-recovered-from-slopes-of-mount-jefferson-privately-funded-helicopter-helps-in-effort/ I don't think there is anything anomalous about this missing person case. Mt. Jefferson has several glaciers north and east of the peak; and if Steve fell into one, it could take years to find his body. Very sad story nonetheless.

Seems that in general there is a curiosity by BF, be it of adults or kids. I’d guess on a very basic level there are three main interactions with BF. Curiosity or observation - Most likely in a neutral or safe environment for BF. Aggression - Most likely due to a perceived threat be it territory, food/water, or family. Avoidance - For whatever reason they move the other way, to many reasons this could be.

For protection from cold winds in Siberia. Their epicanthal fold is a layer of fat around the eye socket that helps keep their eyes from freezing. Neanderthals lived in deep caves and hunted in dense European forests. It’s a different visual need. They could not have lived any farther north because of the ice sheets. And 250,000 years ago the Inuit ancestors were living in Africa. But the much older Neanderthal adaption goes far beyond some skin and fat on the face. Their skulls are shaped different. Their eye sockets were much bigger. And their eyes were much bigger. And how their brain processed vision was different than ours. We know Neanderthal genes in modern humans is linked to Autism. Very non social behavior. This gave humans a leg up on tribal warfare. Building bigger armies, better communication and cooperation. But one on one in the shadows of old Europe? The Neanderthal was king I bet. Enough to leave a lasting impression on Homo Sapiens lineage. Red hair, freckles, barrel chests, pale skin.