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This thread has strayed away from shooting to sampling DNA. Normal straying activity for this forum. For more than 3 years, hiflier has posted a plethora of info on DNA and eDNA. Thank you hiflier. 'You can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink'. Some readers may wonder how to sample. I reviewed my downloads and checked the 23 page paper by the USGS about eDNA sampling protocols. Nice 'how to' pictures and an appendix with suggested supplies list. Some supplies have a high price and that may be a deterrent. Other samples for testing need cold storage which leads to dry ice and or liquid nitrogen. Both of those require special handling and experience. And if you can't come up with material for sampling, your ice cream will be solid for the whole trip. hiflier, keep in mind that some researchers are operating 'under the radar' so try not to get so worked up.

I'm firmly in the Ape camp and as such I think Bigfoot is a social animal. Yes, you can shoot and kill one. Will you be able to retrieve the body? Probably not easily.

After I debated with him for months about the responsibility of government biologists with regard to sasquatches, he claimed to host a symposium of government biologists and warned them that it was being discussed.

Do you remember Saskeptic?

Good one. And here I was thinking I was the only cynic on the BFF. YOU, my friend, I'm happy to say, are right up there with the best of them I have sent that chart I posted to a friend of mine who knows a fairly well respected geneticist. I'm also going to send it to a professor that I know personally who does quite a bit of DNA work- and has access to a lab. He's done a little bit of work with the F&W. Also there's a state biologist that I have spoken to and emailed on occasion who's going to get a copy. I have permission from the chart's author to do so.

Drills don't exist. But they did millions of years ago, but they didn't look like the drill in your blurry picture. They looked like washing machines. We know this even though the only artifacts we have of those old drllls look like the ones in your blurry pictures, except bigger. Now leave us alone. The climate has covid, and we're busy developing a mask for the next hurricane.

Sorry. I didn't mean you. I meant Science. I worded it poorly.

It's more like no one has a Milwaukee drill but they do have blurry photos of them and create a Forum to discuss their existence for 20 years. Not only that, if anyone asks experts who should know whether or not the drills are real? They don't get a truthful answer. Instead, the ones who should know about the drills will only talk about washing machines.

It's more like them bringing me a photo of the latest model of a Milwaukee drill, then telling me to go buy one myself because Santa Claus doesn't exist.......and if you think he does, then bring me his carcass. Want a carcass? Pay my expenses up front, and give me legal indemnity. I'll do my best. Otherwise, go pound sand. So are Milwaukee drill sales. I've got one. A nice one. But I had to buy it myself. I don't believe in Santa Claus.

I have a Halo 13 that I carry. Great knife. Mine is the Border Patrol grip.

It doesn’t matter if ten micro grams registers a hit. Science demands a type specimen! Two actually. One male and one female. DNA doesn’t help us with setting a morphological base line for the species. That’s why type specimens are required. So? By you advocating DNA collection to prove the species real? That by proxy makes you pro kill. Because DNA is only one tool in a line of stepping stones to the discovery of a new species. Which includes killing and dissection of a male and female representation of the species. The people here that say they don’t want to prove anything to science? They just want a sighting of their own. They can claim they are anti kill. But anyone who claims to want to prove the animal to science? We are all in the SAME boat. Might as well get chummy, because DNA will not be the end result, it’s just another tool to get us to where we are going. No different than a rifle, a dart gun, a boat, a snowmobile, a net, a helicopter, etc, etc, etc… Dr. Mayor got Chimp like DNA in Kentucky. I applaud her efforts. But it still hasn’t lit a fire under the scientific community. And so the struggle continues… and we all contribute in our own way.🤷‍♂️

All these posts are excellent and go to the heart of how we are thinking and dealing with this issue in general. It shows that we've not only learned a great deal about discussing this subject but that we've also learned about ourselves to include the nuances that are mentioned. Discovery isn't going to be a cake walk no matter how one slices it. It takes guts to shoot one. Heck it even takes guts to be out there where some of us go. And it's going to take guts to shove a valid DNA result into the public arena. And I respect you all for even talking about it. QFT! My thinking all along in recent years. There are people working on that, Huntster. Unfortunately (fortunately?), I am held in confidence which does not allow me to go into details. Suffice it to say for now that positive things are currently in the works. At least positive enough to ask folks to hold off on shooting one for the time being.

I have multiple experiences to answer that question, and all of them had absolutely nothing to do with sasquatchery. My dip through the ice of Big Lake in the cab of my pickup while ice fishing was the perfect potential 411 qualifier. Trying to stay alive isn't so much a matter of "good enough in the field" as it is lucky enough, persistent enough, or blessed enough by a merciful God to survive. The "good enough" concept comes into play when considering the possibility of not getting oneself into potentially fatal trouble in the first place, and frankly, as the experiences of even the most notable adventurers and explorers of history show, that can happen to anyone.

It's been up to Science to secure the DNA and the type specimen all along, not us.

^ exactly! I just checked and, my supply of liquid nitrogen is running low. Not sure why anyone would post a picture of purported genetic mutations and then scold the other participants here if we don't know where that image came from, or exactly how to interpret it. Since this topic is: Can You Really Shoot A Bigfoot?, one might wonder if posts re: DNA collection as being the only worthy endeavor in the world of Bigfoot research, might do better in a topic that is actually about DNA? To address the OP, I'd say yes, one could definitely shoot a Bigfoot. Almost anything that exists can be shot, if it is in range. I personally think that is the wrong approach. I would sooner try to lasso one (which has actually been suggested here as a viable possibility! lol) than to shoot one, unless of course it was attacking, which pretty much goes without saying..

Please post that your real name is not "Dutch".

Finally found the blogspot I was looking for. Remember Robert Lindsay? Yeah, I won't dwell on him too much but he did actually pull together a pretty great list of historical BF reports of BF being shot, shot at or killed by some other method. The sources are decent: Track Record, John Green, BFRO etc. If anyone ever says 'well how come no one has ever shot one', this is a pretty good response. Lindsay is/was a controversial character for sure, but there is 61 pages of shooting reports here. I've read many of them previously but putting them together like this is a solid piece of work. Fascinating. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2014/07/12/bigfoot-news-july-12-2014/

Asking for help, someone buy, and save me from, this Blackjack. Have been looking for a larger Bowie style for a while and already ordered a newer Bark River/Blackjack Model 1-7 then saw: https://www.ebay.com/itm/295036516041