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I'm afraid the crux of the topic is the witnesses honesty. There is no case for misidentification or misinterpretation here. Either it's the most incredible Interaction with an unknown species. Which for the most part defies what we think what we know about their behaviours. Or we all know what the alternate is.... To suggest that we can only comment on this topic if we are fully on board with the incredible and unsubstantiated claims simply won't fly.

We were at a canyon bottom and had a long uphill hike to get out, 500 foot climb on a forest service road. We were goofing around and WVFooter immitated a Bobo howl , I grabbed two rocks and made some clacks. We started our hike and a few minutes later heard some brush rustling. We just ignored it thinking it was a deer or something, kept hiking and then we started to hear heavy footfalls. We stopped and it stopped. We continued and it resumed. Stopped again and it stopped, we repeated that 4 or 5 times. It had rained so we could hear the splash when the foot hit the ground. I couldn't reproduce the loudness with my boots. That's when I started getting apprehensive. Kept hiking and it continued to follow us. We couldn't see the damn thing, it stayed behind the brush the whole time. Finally WVFooter pulled out his .22 revolver , screamed in the general direction and fired two shots into a tree. It didn't like that and started crashing loudly through the brush away from us. The last 100 yards we broke the world record running to the truck. We came back a couple of weeks later well armed to retrieve the sound recorders and trail cameras, they were gone and have never been back.

I was a Marine also Semper Fi but in your post you said we need to locate these people and verify them . Anyone making these big claims without a shred of evidence is just talk so there is no way to verify them .

Not all of them, g, though that was my intention. And I still feel bad that I got a bit burnt out after a while. But I found I wasn't doing anyone any favors, especially you, when my focus on what I was listening to began to wander. I was afraid I'd miss something critical and so had to hand the project back to you. It was a pretty danged cool project and a privilege to be be involved in it, especially so early in my BF membership. Pretty danged cool indeed.

That was the incident that made you decide to get your 1911. I remember when you first were test-firing it on the range it tended to jam until you got that after market kit that eliminated the problem.

Norse, the equipment was there, I meant "they" were gone. Yes I do.

Being followed and hearing steps must be very disconcerting. You know someone, or something, has you in its sights and you still have a trek ahead of you to return to the safety of the vehicle. It moments like that when you realize it is in control of the situation and could take you whenever it wanted. What we do in the woods is not for the feint of heart. Do you think it was the discharging of the revolver that ultimately cause them to move away?

Oh wow! I’m glad that you didn’t have to stop a charge with a .22! It’s much better at knee capping your buddy, so you can escape!🤣 So something took all your equipment?

It's cool she has all those photographs to show us.

Quality postings, Norse. I always appreciate learning skills just paying attention to your postings.

Here is a auction house with some good lookin mules in Wyoming. https://www.saddlemule.com/mules4sale-detail.php?Chrome-644 Mules have a small hard hoof. Much smaller than a horse of comparative size. They don’t do well in a bog. But in Rocky country they are superb. They can wedge that foot into stuff a horse is gonna skate on,

Good advice. The first couple of times we went into our research area, we were green and went unarmed. Heard some tree knocking and got escorted out of the area which scared us badly. After that we came loaded for bear and ready to kick some ass, nothing, it was like they left the area.

I’ve shot more deer and elk because I was watching my horse or mules ears than I ever did with boots on the ground.