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Do you know it is illegal to land an aircraft in a National Forest unless it is a designated airstrip or for an actual search and rescue mission. That eliminates SAR training as the military has to follow the same rules. The forest service does not want people cracking up landing in the bush and starting a fire or needing to remove the wreckage. The exception would be if the area belongs to the military as a training area. That would be charted on aeronautical charts. As a matter of fact the area is not only not charted as a training area but I believe where I saw the helicopter was in a wilderness area. You not only cannot land there but cannot fly below 2000 feet AGL. That wilderness area is nothing special from the air. Sort of makes me wonder why it is there.

I had a little Sog with a rubberized handle out camping with me once. I had to use bug spray...DEET...and had it in my hands. That stuff destroyed the rubber handle, just from touching it. Turned it gooey. Be careful with those.

It just occurred to me that one of the choices of why they are protected does not make any sense based on our history with the First Peoples. If BF is included in that group because they are a sentient humans they would have gotten the shaft along with the first peoples. So that to me suggests they are not human. Since acceptance by science has not happened, perhaps the economic impact of government acceptance and protection has been weighed and parts of the Goevernment believes they will be extinct soon enough that vast tracts of protected habitat are not necessary. Of course the ET connection possibility is still on the table. Related to that I cannot shake an instance I observed years ago involving the government. I had gotten tired of tromping around the woods and decided to select a accessable high point overlooking the East Fork of the Lewis River in Skamania County WA. I selected a high ridge line overlooking miles of forest along the river. Set up a high powered spotting scope on a tripod and scanned the valley looking for BF movement. Much was so far away that if I did see anything I could not see much and the only value would be to know where to go to look for footprints or hope for an enounter. After several hours I heard a helicopter landing near a river several miles to the East. I thought il likely some Forest Service operation but when I looked with the scope was surprised to see a Navy or Coast Guard military helicopter. It was not looking for anything but would land, stay on the ground a few minutes then fly off to the SE. Only to return in about 20 to 25 minutes. It made several trips and became my point of interest. The logging road I was near had some log truck and an occassional forest service vehicle but not much else seemed to be going on. I probably watched about 6 round trips and could not figure what was going on other than something seemed to shuttled back and forth to the SE. The helicopter did not seem to be searching for anything but was flying to a destination and returning. Finally, the helicopter took off then suddenly changed direction and headed straight for me instead of the SE. I realized I had been seen and that for some reason I was now their point of interest. Watching them, I loaded up the telescope and drove off to the West. As soon as I did, the helicopter changed course and headed back to the SE again as if me leaving solved some problem for them. Why would they have any interest in me, no matter what they were doing, unless me watching was a problem? Never saw any mention of military presence in the county in the media and there was not a search for a lost person going on. The Navy or Coast Guard normally are only involved with that sort of thing unless it involves someone missing in the water. At the time there was a helicopter Army National Guard unit in Portland that would participate in mountain and land searches. Really abnormal no matter what was going on.

I'd think that within the government it's largely on a need to know basis somewhat like the extraterrestrials...but then that might encompass more than one might initially think, in that their presence must impact a pretty broad range of industry and business, as well as state and national parks, public safety, hunting, and the various militaries with their remote bases. Of course there's a number of variables or unknowns(to us laypeople, at least)that would effect how the government deals/interacts with them. For example, if theyre "just" wood apes, then it's much more an issue of simple wildlife management somewhat akin to bears. Whereas if they're a hominid of some form, sentient, cognitive creatures with clearly social traits akin to our own, that involves an entirely different course of oversight. And then should it turn out they are indeed capable of language and a comprehension of abstract concepts, then our management takes on a whole new complexity, perhaps even viewing them as "a nation" of their own. Now if theyre actually shapeshifting multidimensional creatures, that might put us at something of a disadvantage trying to control them. If this brief list, each successive level would require greater involvement in order to contain, and in a sense this would hinge on how far the government is willing to concede in regards to their capabilities. But presuming it's one of the first two or there abouts, no doubt the heads of big timber, minings and forestry know of them, on a front line basis as it were. As well as the military bases(Fort Lewis/McChord, for example) Would the dept of Commerce be involved? Possibly....Fish and Game has got to have some faction in the know...dept of the interior, homeland security(especially If they re crossing back and forth from canada) and this is just off the top of my head. But the question becomes who issued the hush order? And what's the result of disobeying that? How far up does it go ? Can't really say.....or wont? Lol

I know I'm in good company:) I'm outta votes or I'd get you one Monk...errr...Wooly. As BRB mentioned, you do bring good points and I've appreciated a lot of the discussion.