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  1. I remember camping in southern Colorado in November 2019. I was near the Colorado/New Mexican border. Theres a forest road that i was camping off of called FR#663. Its a 7 mile road in a national forest that goes to a wilderness area at the top where its non motorized only. Theres a rock formation called V rock that you can climb too. I'm not saying its the hardest hike but you do ascend at a pretty steep incline just to get to the top. Then you hike some time and have to crawl, jumo over, get on top of, and over some dead trees to get to the top of v rock. Once there the scene scenery is hard to beat but I'm surprised not a lot of people have fallen to their deaths.
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  2. The USFS and BLM aren't gong to bless major military training exercises on their lands. Squad size foot traffic exercises like the SEAL team or SERE training? Yeah, it happens all the time. Here it's often on glaciers, which are usually BLM "lands" (ice) or high altitude mountains. There are probably long standing ISSAs (Interagency Service Support Agreements) governing such activities. When it comes to the inclusion of heavy military equipment, that's almost always on military lands. Commonly we'll see a greenie administrator try to shut down an ISSA when it expires, but DoD money is extra green, and they usually come to terms when the double press of money and political pressure comes into play. I have no doubt you've found SERE camps. Like the SEAL camp I mentioned, they might leave a mess, especially if they were in rough weather. The land managers get pissed off, but it happens just like it does with members of the public. When those guys leave a mess, they get chewed on pretty good. Stuff like that has led to greater difficulty setting up good training ops.
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  3. The geography of Washington State is chaotic. People go missing and some are found and some are not found. Some want to disappear and some want to commit suicide. Humans get too close to natural features and usually die. They are not wearing the proper footwear. IIRC, there was a report on a deceased person, and the comments specifically pointed out wrong footwear. The victim slipped and fell. I think that coroners have a separate category for 'death by selfie' ( over the cliff / falls ). People fall: off of boats, cliffs, over waterfalls, off of bridges, into rivers, streams, creeks, lakes, ponds, into ice covered bodies of water, crevasses. Get washed out to sea while surf fishing. Cold water kills and the number of persons in Washington incidents that do not use / have flotation devices is criminal. Years ago, a skeleton of a Salal picker was found. Never reported missing. The victim was later identified. No foul play. Depending on the scenario, a 'double investigation' is started. One looks at the event and the second looks at background information as in debt / liabilities and if knee breakers were in the hunt. Years ago, a guy allegedly did a sport jump out of a helicopter with a 'squirrel suit'. Dark colored fabric, no cell phone, no strobe, no locater beacon. Gone. In Washington State, I don't get too excited about missing tourists. The internet keyboard warriors go crazy but the investigation takes time to produce the facts. I wear rubber boots that have an excellent grip.
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