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Seems like I've been following the ONE rule for a long while. I personally don't need a prominent celebrity/researcher/politico to prove anything to me. I don't need a body, video clip, photo or personal encounter to convince me these beings are real. Thousands of everyday people have told of their unwanted experiences. The first nation's people have history with these beings going back to before Europeans showed up. Proof? How about acceptance? Accept that they are real, here, and have a right to be left alone ... kinda like us humans. And hey, if we were really playing the game with ONE rule, none of us would have memberships to or be posting on bigfoot discussion forums. But since I find the subject fascinating, I cheat the game by listening and reading. Sometime by discussing too. Just my thoughts. Do with them what you will...

Its really getting old Hiflier. I think you need a break from the BFF.

That kind of thing is standard fare with everything. I like to call it "the carnival class". There are people who love to go and see the freaks, the tumblers, play the shell games, and get startled in the haunted house, and the operators make a living putting on the show. It floats their boats. Their activities actually promote the circus atmosphere surrounding sasquatchery, and that tends to make the average Joe think that sasquatchery is quackery. And that is precisely what tends to protect the species; people dismissing their existence. So most folks are happy: * Sasquatches * The current Masters of Anthropology * Government * The folks who would wet their sleeping bags if they realized that sasquatches really were out there * Skeptics * The Carnival Class * Those who want sasquatches left alone * Etc The only folks unhappy are those who demand that everybody knows.

I feel like there are higher hurdles to show non-North East Asian ancestry for the first humans on the continent than their are for North East Asian ancestry. As in, any study that shows North East Asian DNA is promoted, any study that shows non North East Asian DNA is buried or ridiculed, it's methods called into question, and contamination is questioned.

I've gotten to the level where I give my signed books away to people that I personally meet, whether strangers or not. My one book has been on Amazon for sale and I'm seriously considering free eBook downloads for the public and only pricing the paperback to cover the cost of printing and shipping- I would then make nothing on either. Why? Because there is no proof of Bigfoot in my book and it has made me feel more of a hypocrite and even guilty for selling them. I was going to use any monies to pay for my research equipment, but even that felt wrong. And this thread has made me feel guiltier still. Thank goodness I don't own a museum. Closing it would be a pain in the neck. But if I DID have one I WOULD close it at this point purely on ethical grounds. I've never gone to a conference, but even if I did? The idea of vendors' tables leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It always has truth be known. So yes, I do indeed also play The Game. I don't do snake oil, speakers, or books with zero to show. Don't even talk to me about documentaries or YouTube subscriptions. Anyone want money out of me? Cough up the goods (proof). Perfecting The Game means being totally honest with the Sasquatch situation. It doesn't give me license to dangle carrots in front of anyone and hope they pay me money for selling an illusion. If I get proof of the creature's existence then people will pay that. But to cleverly bait the public by making them THINK I have proof? No way, I won't do it.

This is how to play the game while abiding by the Do Nothing rule: Don't go to conferences Don't buy Bigfoot merchandise Don't go on paid expeditions Don't go to Bigfoot museums Don't buy Bigfoot books (mine included) Don't download Bigfoot eBooks (mine included) Don't buy Bigfoot movies Don't rent Bigfoot movies Don't go see Hollywood Bigfoot movies Don't watch Bigfoot documentaries Don't buy Bigfoot documentaries Don't rent Bigfoot documentaries Don't donate money for anything Don't spend one more dime on anything Bigfoot related You get the idea, No one gets a single cent until they come up with the Goods. The "Goods" meaning Bigfoot proof of existence. No more teasing, no more carrots, no more experts, no more failed DNA studies, no more "YOU decide" videos or dialogue, no more blurry photos, no more audio recordings, no more footprint casts, and no more hair samples. The "Goods" and ONLY the Goods" if anyone in "the biz" wants to ever see another nickle from anyone. Billions of dollars are spent every year by believers who still have zero in return for their hard earned money. And it's been gong on for years! So, play this game with its one rule of Do Nothing and the "Bigfoot Biz" will be left with only two choices if it wants to survive: One, fold up the snake oil tents and go home, And two, either prove the Bigfoot exists.....or prove that it DOESN'T, and stop running a sham on the public at large once and for all. And that's how everyone wins the game. Except for the ones who have been running the current game for the last 60 years.And all everyone has to do is NOTHING. Some might call it a Bigfoot strike. Because money drying up is pretty serious business. But whatever the term, it's time, way overdue actually, for a reconning. There. A new Bigfoot game where the shoe gets to go on the OTHER foot. Shall we all play? Could be fun, or at least fairly interesting...and within just a very few short months the game could be over with everyone getting a check mark in the "win" column

^^^^^ Ditto http://www.bigfootencounters.com/ Bigfootencounters should be required reading for newbies. They need to know about the revealed hoaxes and hoaxers. The classic category goes way back. In the Spirit of Seatco - Henry Franzoni was available years ago in hard cover. Now from Amazon as a Kindle product to keep you from going bonkers while you are laid up. You have to read it with an open mind.

There is very little recently printed that is worth reading. Too much hyperbole, too many posing as experts who typically know less than those they presume to talk down to. The classics are good and almost always worth a re-read. I'll go with my original 4 recommendations .. in no particular order: The Locals - Thom Powell Enoch - Autumn Williams Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science - Jeff Meldrum Abominable Snowmen : Legend Come to Life - Ivan Sanderson I like to add In the Spirit of Seatco - Henry Franzoni A trip through Bobbi Short's old web site / archive is cool. In all of the classics, there is always additional detail to be discovered.

I ALWAYS look in the mirror, gigantor, and have never, ever asked anyone to do anything I haven't done or am doing for myself. Communities SHOULD support each other but I see no one who has ever seriously supported or who have ever seriously done what I do to get at the bottom of this BF business. And anyone who has been here more than five years KNOWS what I've done and have tried to encourage others to help out. Doesn't happen. Criticism happens, though, is spades which as far as I can tell is all anyone here is good for. I thank you all for nothing because that's pretty much the extent of my experience n this Forum. I got something on a trail camera at 2am this past Sunday morning. First time ever. Do you think there is a snowball's chance that I would post it here? Nope. ain't gonna happen. WHY? It isn't proof. Got tree knocks a year ago. Think I would mention it on this Forum back when it happened? Again, no, because it isn't proof. The point being that the Bigfoot business side isn't about proof, it's about hype and sensationalism, and people strutting around who are famous for....what exactly? Not proof of Sasquatch that's for sure. This Game I'm talking about and playing is aimed at pulling the rug out from underneath all of that. It's all little more than a useless sham playing acting like some kind of serious endeavor at getting to the truth and I will do everything I can think of to sink this side of Bigfootery. So much time, so much energy, and so much money spent building peripheral enterprises and doing everything BUT going after this creature en mass and finishing the most important hunt of the last 200 years. And as the cash cow it has become, as the slap in the face that it has become, it has only shown how little the community considers the true importance of this creature and the biz side deserves no support whatsoever.