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I'll add one more. A species can't be considered endangered unless it has been proven to exist. It can't be considered extinct if it can't be proven to have previously existed.

WRONG. As I have explained before, there are two paradigms for regulating what can or cannot be shot. Some states use one, some the other. In California, the critters that can be shot are specifically listed. Anything not on the list is considered protected. In Oregon, the critters which CANNOT be shot are listed and anything not listed can be shot. (The crux of the matter is Oregon hates invasive species. If it isn't listed, it must be invasive and should be eradicated.) California plays by the rules as you describe the. Oregon DOES NOT.

Hey everyone. Had a photo I wanted to share. Recently got back from a BFRO expedition in California. We had many unexplained events happen during the 5 day stay in the outdoors. But here is a good one. Check out this hand print that was on one of the vehicles at the camp. You can clearly see the hand print and the forearm hair that was there also. The hand print on the left was a comparative handprint from a 6’2”/250lbs male. There was also hair print on the tailgate where the culprit in question stood with its back brushing up against it(which I didn’t photograph). This area was dubbed “The nursery” because of all the smaller/juvenile Sasquatches that are reported. While there, I didn’t hear numerous small bipedal feet watching around our tent as well as small footsteps running on the granite where I had left apples. They were gone the next morning, not a crumb around.

That’s a LIE. It’s a bald faced LIE. Read the game regs of all 50 states and get back to me. Yes, a few states require any legal animal be on some sort of list. Other states allow any animal omitted to be treated as varmints. I kill house mice every day. I don’t have a tag for them Hiflier…… I also don’t have a tag for a Pixie or a Gnome. You are a blow hard. That’s all…. Adios!🤦🏻‍♂️

I have zero intentions of eating a Bigfoot….. I am not hunting Bigfoot for food. It’s only for scientific discovery, ok? Only ONE county in Washington state is it a misdemeanor to harm a Bigfoot. ONE. And who would not take the misdemeanor to make one of the biggest discoveries in human history??? I would! And again for the millionth time? I’m not against collecting DNA samples. But why collect a DNA sample if one is looking right at you? How many sightings get reported on a yearly basis? All lost opportunities. Let’s stop judging each other and get off our high horses and focus on the most field expedient way of proving this cryptid a real animal. I don’t make the rules with science. DNA and type specimens are interlinked. Most DNA comes from a chunk of the animal….typically deceased. Science doesn’t care if it was natural causes or the bush meat trade. What it is, how many it is and how to properly manage the species??? Comes after it’s no longer a CRYPTID!!! No fish and game agency is debating or putting money into managing Pixies or Gnomes or Mothmen or Werewolves. And Bigfoot will get no consideration for conservation either as long as it remains in this camp….

As a Nebraska native for my first 30 years of life, it was well known there were cats in Nebraska. Omaha has had lots of cats over the years spotted and verified, and it is one of the only metro areas in the state (Lincoln being the other). I grew up in northeast Nebraska, and cat sightings happened there also. Grew up along the Elkhorn river, and while we were never worried about cats, the river was an obvious area/corridor they would be located. They amount of summer nights we spent camping along the river in the summers, there had to be times a cat had passed through and we never knew. I have spent the last 22 years in Montana. Obviously there are cats up here. I have seen one, fleetingly, once. I live in the foothills at 6100 ft elevation (not in a town), and we have had a cat following/stalking kids who got off the bus stop about 2 miles down from my place. At this point, I had younger kids myself, and while they didn't take the bus (I took them to school), these kinds of things make you think when your kids are constantly out playing on the heavily treed mountainside your house is on. We have had lots of bears at my place over the years, but I am sure cats have been close by many times. My mother, while my parents were here visting one time, saw a mountain lion cross the road just a half mile from my house. But obviously Montana is going to have cats around. I don't think it is a question of if cats are around in many states in the US - they are. Maybe not in great numbers, but many states that claim no mountain lion population does have them, and that info is just not dispersed by the states local authorities. It seems kind of silly to not admit they are around, but that seems to be a pattern in some states. As far as the deer in the tree in this post, I am no expert, but I think a mountain lion is the most likely answer. But not the only possible answer. Just by far the most likely.

My guess is that they really like free license to their vivid imaginations regarding stuff nobody can prove, and they demand near impossible things from the potential realities that pose danger to those imaginations.

Yup. Better yet, it sure is. Pretty much. Certainly not. Everybody marches to their own drumbeat. Want to prove the existence of sasquatches? By all means, be my guest, and good luck to you. Dude, I've been asking that very question, among so many more regarding that fossil, for yaers. If you get an answer, please post it. I'd love to hear that story.

I don't think so. Science comes in compartments. Among those there is "definitely" the ability to do the needed technical work. Unfortunately, that's not the whole picture. One compartment can present all it wants but until another accepts the validity of what has been presented, the lid remains firmly in place. Science seems perfectly ok with the idea of dead-end near-us lineages in the past. Science does not seem ok with something "us-like" still existing today. Fair or not, proving bigfoot is a much heavier "lift" than proving yet-another long dead cousin.

Bryan Sykes used Mitotyping Technologies in his paper on hair analysis published in Proceedings of the Royal Society B, which is open access: Proc. R. Soc. B 2014 281, 20140161, published 2 July 2014. Genetic analysis of hair samples attributed to yeti, bigfoot and other anomalous primates | Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences (royalsocietypublishing.org) References 9 and 10 therein (also free access) are authored by Terry Melton of Mitotyping Technologies and describe the power of their hair methodology for mtDNA. I have used Genidaqs for eDNA metabarcoding, but you will have to do your own interpretation of the sequences for unusual human or near human mtDNA. They give you other species IDs and omit common ones such as human, dog, cat, chicken, cow, pig.

One thing that sticks out about the sightings/year listing is the notable drop off in 2016,which, not to venture too close to politics, was, nonetheless, a year of significant shift In focus, so one might say. The beginning(on some levels) of the great divide amongst the various factions within our population, a polarizing that became quite all encompassing for many and then that followed by the pandemic and the constraints it brought, minimizing or at least reducing much of travel and outdoor activity for a lot of us could well account for much in regards to the drop In actual sightings. And it seems that only somewhat recently have activity patterns begun to return to pre-pandemic levels...on the flip side, I truly hope Covid -19 didn't reach any of the "dwarf side of the tracks" sasquatch groups and then got passed on ever deeper into their territories and numbers..who knows how dramatically they may have been impacted by the arrival of the Europeans and their foreign antigens. For all we know, they could just now be returning to their previous population densities, if that's even possible in light of the exploding hairless dwarf populations!

We are nudging ever closer to proving that big cats are a really here in the UK. I was fortunate enough to see one myself while passing on slow moving train. We have a university here examining tooth pits which are signs Big Cats leave when biting down on bones of their prey. We have had some interesting DNA results too. Noticed this article a few years ago now which isn't too far away from me near Glasgow. One deer was found dragged up a tree another found with bite marks in the neck. Of course no one made the connection in the article but possible BC was the culprit. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/grisly-mystery-after-dead-roe-5353126 Can't recommend this podcast enough. Rik Minter is doing some great work in this field. Asked me to appear and talk about my big cat sighting and also discussed some Sasquatch topics on that episode also. https://bigcatconversations.com/

Boy, talk about blowing things out of proportion. I think at this point you'll say just about anything to stay on top of this. Endangered species are not varmints and neither is a Sasquatch. So if you want to continue this in mature fashion then keep things in perspective and stop grabbing at straws. I'm an adult and so are you are you, so try not to conflate things beyond what is sensible.