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vvvvvvvv That is NOT a human! If it is? Show me another woman that looks like her….. I will wait.⏱️

This is not the place for a DNA flame war, hiflier. This is about the question: "Catch and Release?" Please start a topic called: "We have Proof of Bigfoot that You will never See" so that we can gladly ignore it. Honestly, get a room for yourself.

Yes guesses by a scientist who specializes in primate anatomy. It’s not a Sasquatch skull? Is that a guess on your part? Yes. The whole thing is 3D printed…… The skeleton represents a creature that is roughly ONE THOUSAND LBS. There is only ONE primate in history that has achieved that size. No Human is anywhere close to that size. No Neanderthal is anywhere close to that size. No species in the genus Homo is anywhere close to that size. And yet we are to believe that we cannot tell the difference between Sasquatch DNA and Human DNA? Something is way way off….. But I digress, my hostility is that we cannot talk about any subject without it turning into a DNA debate because certain individuals like telemarketers just have to spam the airwaves. Like a bad hair product infomercial they just keep popping up over and over and over again. 👋🏻

The researchers used 147 skulls and 43 spines to classify Tursiops erebennus. Could they have done it with less body parts? I don't know and neither do you. My point is that, apparently, you don't know what in the hell you are taking about. 🤷‍♂️

I'm brand new here but might as well jump in 2 feet first! I grew up in Southern Indiana, so right off the bat this interests me. Where I grew up though there is nothing but corn fields, but what woods we had were thick and had plenty of wildlife and water. 2 things that could support a large ape like creature. The question here would be inter-connected ways of travel. They exist, but just few and far between. It could be legit just based on these precursors. As far as the mid-tarsal break is concerned, I can definitely see it on the right foot print. As far as the left, I can understand why you would say that norseman. I don't see much of one there either. Could be the shot, could be the mud, could be another print within or it could be bunk (fake). I don't know. Either way its fun to think about a large primate existing near where I grew up! Now be gentle with me there norseman! My wife is a Viking woman so I know the propensity for orneriness!

Nope. You are willing to kill 2, perhaps even a breeding pair, to get them classified. I am willing to kill 0, see the difference? hiflier says we have the DNA and almost 8 billion type specimens already so, I guess were just waiting on the paper-work..

Hypothetical discussion. I thought that was clear. There will be more than 11 pages. The dart thing has been on this forum for more than 10 years. I will have to post in the eDNA thread about sampling and contamination.

Madison, I have looked at some of her videos and parts of others and I would agree watching them can be a little tedious at times. I do credit Snow White with spending a lot of her time searching for evidence and getting everything on video.

Again, I was being facetious to Norseman's, "I want to shoot one." Why aren't people getting this? I don't think people will EVER get it from what I can see. We HAVE the DNA. AND the type specimens....of BOTH sexes. The type specimen is called a Human. It has had different species of it's genus off and on for millions of years. And we know because of its ancient DNA. So it's modern Humans vs. Ancient Humans. Following that? Okay, now science, for example, using DNA has found, a new species of dolphin. How do they know? Because as you said, xspider1, a type specimen needs to exists and it does- a dolphin, which science was able to compare the new dolphin's DNA with the old. And BINGO! New species. Transfer that concept to Sasquatch and....well....do I need to go further? Because every study has shown species of Human. Human IS the type specimen that everyone's been looking for. Sasquatch is a species, or sub species if you will. It will not show up as a different genus. Period. There is nothing hard about this no matter how hard folks work to keep it out of most discussions.

If you don't trust the science that produces the data then toss it if you like. But the long running complaint in the community is that Sasquatch DNA is so close to Human that geneticists ignore it thinking Human contamination. Well, sometimes it isn't Human contamination. But when we GET DNA that is close to Human with mutations? STILL no one will trust it. The issue isn't the DNA, it's that the community rejects it even when it's in-your-face obvious. If one cannot plug DNA results into the picture along with the other pieces of the puzzle, to see that whole picture, then the community will continue to fail science and visa versa. I have baggies with dirt from footprints. Just waiting for an okay from a study group for when (and if) they move into that kind of testing.

^^ Hmm, you must be new to the Forum MIB. But I know you're nor because you want me to go around in yet another circle on this? Forget it. If anyone is interested, it's all here. But if you don't pay attention enough to put all the points together that I've talked about, or are simply being difficult, or your memory is just shot? Then, well....that's just too bad. It's all here and has been for quite a while. But in either case, it's obvious you're not interested- so make yourself useful- go find it. If not? that's fine, too, I don't care either way. Go dig a pit and play catch and release. That's much more expensive, labor intensive, dangerous, and time consuming. Scooping up water and having it tested? Relatively cheap and easy. But no one ever bothers to bring that up now do they. Even though it's what science will accept. And it's a fine Sasquatch discussion topic, too. But apparently there's an intentional cognitive break here and the really blatant thing about it? Is that everyone knows it. So what does that say about how things get handled here by the major influencers here? The emperor has no clothes, pal.

A ridiculous strawman argument if there ever was one. You are purposely ignoring every thing I've said, which is, wait for it.....A SPECIES OF HUMAN. Period. Go ahead keep ignoring it. That won't make it go away.

Yep, simplistic. The DNA showed it to be a different species. By ONE base pair. What's your point? That science couldn't differentiate between one species of Human and another without looking at 147 skulls? How about DNA from a 40,000 year old pinky finger bone. Does that not count because it isn't a skull? How about samples that have results that show mutations in the Human genome that are so rare that one of them is hard to find. How about two? or Three? Together in a single genome which isn't found in a single Human genome. But those mutations are scattered all over "other primates." People can twist things around any way they wish but when confronted with what I just wrote it all falls apart. And the kicker? The mutations were found in samples from NORTH AMERICA. Truth.......Should anyone be willing to look at it.

If you don't think so then go ahead and remain in the dark ages. Gigantopithicus, a partial jaw bone and teeth. And that's all. But science got an awful lot of mileage out if that one did they not? Point being, this isn't a science Forum. So why should anyone really know about things? Or study anything outside of a Wiki cut and paste? Or stoop to cherry picking a sentence out of an article, out of context, and use it for debate? But that's what happens. And just so you know? This Forum is only one front that I deal with. Outside of this Forum all kinds of stuff is going on. Here is different though. The idea of using DNA for discovery instead of digging a pit dies quickly if not kept in the general dialogue. Because there are those that argue only so that Sasquatch discovery won't happen. I'm the only on on this side of the fence, and I'm pretty sure my experience concerning it has shown a blatant resistance to proving existence. But I don't mind being on this side of the fence. I have the entire industry of genetic science and technology backing me up. And it's actually been pretty great knowing that IMO. So have your fun, stay in the dark, never progress, and all will be well, LOL.