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Agreed, but I don't think "woo" is the answer, I think the answer is a mixture of their intelligence and our arrogance. We presume we are unique in our intelligence and that no mere dumb animal can outsmart us. I think this is the failure. The animal isn't so dumb, we're engaging it on its turf, and we're too self-assured of our superiority to think we could be outsmarted / misdirected thus making it fairly easy to do both. Remember the saying about it is easier to fool people than it is to convince them they've been fooled? I think this is an aspect of that. There is some weird though. Much of it could .. whether it is correctly done or not .. be attributed to infrasound based on white papers I've read over the years. The only thing that I find truly inexplicable is the eyesight because it should not be as acute in darkness and in light both at the same time from one set of eyes. To that I speculate that the sheer size of the eyes allows for non-specialization to produce both effects adequately rather than having to specialize for either light vision or dark vision. Guessing only though. MIB

Hey all, Anyone ever driven the so-called "Bigfoot Hwy", Oregon 224? I'm considering driving it one of these days, soon, on an overnight loop drive. Suggestions are welcomed, and if you have any experiences, please share. Is Joe Beelart around? I can't find my book, which seems really unfortunate. Any tips?

The earth has been bombarded by sunlight, moonlight and star light for billions of years. Atmospheric particles can shift the color of light a small amount. Full sunlight has a wavelength of about 580nm. Full moon light is about 400nm. Star light is about 555nm. The rods and cones in animal vision systems have evolved to take advantage of a relatively narrow band in the electromagnetic spectrum. Human maximum spectral sensitivity under daylight conditions is about 555nm (green). Night time is about 507nm ( blue-green). Deer are about 545nm ( day light 665nm and night time about 470nm). Deer are dichromatic, 2 cones for color. Bears have 2 cones. Human vision evolved to have 3 cones and rods. Our concentration / distributions of rods is poor compared to dichromatic animals. The comparison to Sasquatch is unknown. We do great in daylight, bad in darkness. Animals have very different rod amounts, concentrations and layout patterns in their eyes. Some have a tapetum lucidum. They move around in what humans would consider total blackout because they use starlight. Their eyes just have to change focus from near field to far field. Same for day light and night time and not some fantastical wave length shift. Light travels at 186,000 miles per second. Starlight that reaches Earth can be 'memory light' from a star that burned out a long time ago. The amazing characteristic about starlight as seen on the chart, is that it is constant through latitude changes. Clever animals learned that a long time ago. Bottom numbers are latitude. I did not black out text. It is a government sponsored paper and we did not want the spies to see it in its entirety.

I addressed this several times. The latest on page 5. Cave in’s could be possible with a large animal jumping around in there. Yes. (Or attempted escape) Therefore the pit would have to be constantly monitored. A metal insert serving as a ready made cage would be ideal. Except for the need for the use of large helicopter. 144” x 20 ft = 6860 lbs (check my math) https://www.txcorr.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2014/10/CMP-DETAIL-SHEET2.pdf

It depends on what you mean by proof. 1. hair samples (contentious topic, norse and hifler please don't chime in on this) 2. footprints galore 3. many videos and photos 4. eyewitness reports (if these are good enough to convict someone of murder - beyond a reasonable doubt, I have to give them some weight) None of these things prevent or confirm it being in the "other than an animal" realm. While camping with a friend, we both witnessed a phenomenal, long lasting orb event. As I've researched, I have arrived at the same conclusion that MIB alludes to, although I wouldn't call those who don't know this "ignorant". Our understanding of physics is rudimentary. We like to think we know everything about our natural world, but there are many, many things happening outside of our perceptive capabilities. I suspect much of what is attributed to the "woo" is just a part of our physical reality that we just aren't capable of understanding with our current baseline knowledge of physics. Mods, please don't move this thread to the backpages of the forum. This stuff is front and center in our community today, and it should be fleshed out and debated vociferously.