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They don't like the conversation. It's like politics; if you don't think like me, you're not only wrong, you're the enemy. This is a divided world. Kumbaya just isn't in the music track anymore.

The bear card doesn't work with the PG event and the majority of the Bluff Creek area reports, including Laverty's involvement.

Yup. And the meeting with the federal judge could put them between a rock and a hard place. The department has had plenty of stimuli begging investigation: 1) The PG film event, on federal lands, in the midst of a timber lease program, with multiple road building contractors reporting problems with these creatures for a full nine years before the filming which was broadcast around the world in the media, and which a USFS crew visited the site days after the filming 2) Years of reports of these creatures on Ft. Lewis lands which the Army likely has documented MP or DPW reports 3) Countless citizen reports to USFS and NPS rangers, some of which can be presented to the judge 4) Police reports on or near federal lands, some of which included sightings by the LEO themselves 5) The Freeman Video, also with accompanying footprint casts like the PG film, and who had been a Forest Service employee The ESA suit, along with the rabid denials of the department (including admissions of not even keeping records of reports even from their own employees and contractors) makes a ruling instructing them to begin simple data collection of reports appear to be a gimme.

2 BFF members are currently discussing this. The other 1,286......are not. Such as it goes.