Hello from Arizona, I have been interested in this species for many years now and also had a few encounters that left me really not wanting to encounter this species again, except from the safety of a moving vehicle. The reality of these things is just not really something that I want to mess around with. I'm interested in knowing their size as I am curious as to how they were able to silently move around in thick thorny brush in the dark without making a whole bunch of noise of breaking it all down. I just don't think the group that I encountered were that big, except for maybe one of them. I'm just generally curious as to what I was dealing with in those situations. I have been wanting to leave some trail cameras in some lonely canyons now for some time. However I am hesitant to lose them to theft so I have not done so. I may change my mind this year and just go for it and hide one really well.