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There is a .. pattern. I apologize if I get snippy but I've been down this same path so many times .. it is tiring. Noobs to the subject come in, find something THEY have not seen before, and present it as if it were brand new to an audience who has seen that same thing a dozen times or more, presented by previous noobs who were just as excited thinking that they'd found the answer .. and .. it wears. I want to see new stuff but I don't want to see the same old garbage dug back up, polished slightly, and presented as if it were new .. 'cause it isn't. I do not want to discourage you or dampen your enthusiasm. Just .. don't be shocked if what you think is new has been recycled a half dozen times and everyone but you knows it. Take time .. curb enthusiasm long enough to investigate. It's like .. there are a number of clearly, and "proven-ly", hoaxed pictures that crop up over and over every few years as people who have not taken time to do due diligence get suckered by them and in turn try to sucker others in the same way. It has been a long time since anything truly new has been presented. There are a lot of repetitions, re-occurrences of old patterns, but nothing groundbreaking. The "nests" seemed promising but seemingly nothing has come of them. Ketchum's DNA project turned out to be a bust at best, hoax at worst, but in either case, invalid. And so on. I tell you as honestly as I can, if I were an outsider and if I had not seen 2 myself over the years, I'd think the BF community was bat "guano" crazy, the whole thing was a farce, and I'd stay as far from it as I could. But .. things happen in the woods that don't add up to conventional explanations so the search continues.

Interesting MO, searching every server and all, casting a broad net I guess. The search function here could be helpful, if you like reading.

Thanks guys this is all wild as F*%# I cannot believe this C$#T ugh....I get genuinely excited when I stumble across this stuff as I'm vigorously searching up and down on every server far and wide across the net... I'm glad I ask you guys and the link to her debunk info on squatchdetective was awesome disappointing and crazy all at once... Also thanks for the reply MIB I am going to look into those names you told me to check out

If it came from her it is a lie. The rest is just .. details. My old research partner / sort of mentor in this bigfoot stuff lived fairly near where LNP lived .. and interacted with her much to my friend's displeasure. While I never met LNP myself, I learned enough and had opportunities to validate what I learned. I also independently investigated the Sru Lake "account" from LNP and, feet on the ground, found it to be pure, uncut, bull excrement. I would not waste my time on a single word she said. You can do whatever you want, of course, but IMHO life is too short to waste on her delusional drivel. If you want to look into researchers in that general area, Barbara Butler aka Barbara Wassam has proven pretty interesting. I have 2 books from her, one written under each name, and an unfinished manuscript of a book she was writing via her daughter. One of her sometimes-contributors / collaborators, Jack Woodruff, also contributed material to George Haas' "Bigfoot Bulletin" .. worth reading. Thinking of that, I 'spect there is a Ray Crowe connection .. you know, published everything that came to him but recommended "keep your skepticals on." Some of that early stuff from SW Oregon is pretty darn interesting and many of the places are still there to be viewed / reviewed to see if the accounts make sense. MIB