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It seems to me that somehow there should be established a bank of all these DNA results that come up as human contaminated, and unknown primate,such that over time there would accumulate enough samples to begin a systematic comparison . it seems like every time such results are arrived at that's the end of it. The samples are destroyed and the results dismissed. Sure, theres no real centralized unknown primate DNA analysis center, but there must be a way to obtain the direct data of the studies(ie genetic markers present in sample, or not present, for that matter) I dont know what it costs to complete a genome mapping, but it seems like they are getting done for more and more species, maybe its time to try it on a couple of these unknown primate sample. Eventually these samples will begin to fall into groups with shared traits or similarities. Are there anything like this already in existence? Ones that included a variety of different regions samples? I can't say what Dr Disotell does with the data he sees sample by sample, It seems like Dr Sykes threw out half at the get go then destroyed the rest after he proclaimed the resurgence of the Himalayan grizzly(or was it a polar bear) It just strikes me there's bound to be distinctive commonalities within all these samples , which if fully charted out could at least lend itself to some degree, towards some form of classification or taxonomic placement, or at least "oh yeah, that goes in that pile over there..." Of course this is presuming the government doesn't grab up any samples of significance and already "doesn't have any such data bank whatsoever! Thank you very much"!

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Almost like there's a shadowy faction of the government doing their best to suppress and disinform. I mean, if there were samples that "might be a new manatee" I don't think they'd be getting swept under the rug. Please take that with a grain of salt coming from me as I'm no scientist. Still it reminds me of one of my favorite X Files scenes. Enjoy.

Thanks @NorCalWitness!

Personally, I find this quite the compelling recounting of his experience. His delivery was spot on for a"manly man" letting his guard down and discussing more than just a physical vulnerability. The manner in which he spoke of his fear struck me as reluctant yet determined to express the enormity of what he was going through. I can totally relate to his turning on the light and finding his field of view filled with fur! As a zookeeper I was once standing about 6" from a chain link fence that was the back part of the polar bear cage. The bear was laying down at the far side from me. I said "hey polar bar!" And turned to go to my EZ-Go zoo cart. Two seconds later I strangely hear the fence moving, so I turn back around and my entire field of view is full of white fur, something my brain wasn't really processing. Mind you it was like my face, 6" to the fence, with about 10-12" into polar bear fur! So I look up to see the bear with its paws at the top of the fence, with its head maybe 5-6' directly above me looking down like "but for this fence, you'd be lunch little monkey!" And I nearly had a heart attack right then and there, with this rush of primal fear, like a bad cave bear dream. So I can well imagine what this guy must have been going through, though even worse perhaps, because it wasn't "just a bear" what with that all too telling giant hand visible as well. Talk about instantaneous restructuring of reality! Certainly more than just "oh, I guess they do exist after all" to be sure! At that point you can see his determination to get through the story,and how saying how he tried to look small wasn't an easy confession. His whole avoidance of the sun roof was interesting as was his realization that the sasquatch had probably been watching the whole episode through it. And it be speaks his level of fear that he choose never to look up through it. I tell myself I would at some point have to look up, but I've not been in that situation, so who can say. Another aspect of his retelling that lends veracity is how once he's moved on to recounting the second night he's including all these little details,, he seems on the edge of giddy, and his whole body language is a release of stress, at least until he's once again thinking about "what if" he'd lost battery that first night, which seems to trigger a re-tensing. All in all an interesting account which sure strikes me as authentic and telling of the intensity such an experience invokes. Norseman, thanks for posting this! !

Hiflier got these knocks or pops the week after I had similar at the same site in the North Maine Woods. His 1 min compilation below took place between 9:25 and 9:50pm, back in May. Mine were between 11:10--1ish am. No one else up there when I was, I drove all of the spurs in quite a radius. I have 11 similar knocks/pops to those 2 below. The 1:06 minute recording is hifliers: Hiflier Knock Sounds.mp3 1117 knock 2.wav 1153a knock.wav

That is a fascinating and terrifying story. Exactly the kind of report that makes me a ‘credulous bleever’. Kudos to ‘Four Bandits’ for sharing and thanks for posting that, Norseman. As the saying goes: you can’t make that stuff up. Sure, many some-what convincing stories are fabricated, but when you combine human expression, an apparently honest recounting of actual events, spontaneous emotion and a situation that seems plausible, I would not deny that happened in a million years.